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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm new to this community. What is this thread? Do people submit their own votes for a straw poll here?

As far as I can tell, it seems like most commenters have their own computer ranking systems that they're explaining as they submit.

It's all pretty interesting, but pretty intimidating for someone new to this place.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Pretty much! It doesn't have to be a computer poll, it can be just your opinion, or a hybrid.

I do a computer poll, because a) I don't watch enough games to make an informed ranking and b) it's a fun exercise in coding and tuning the algorithm(s) for me.

You also don't need to share your ballot in the comments, but I also enjoy sharing and explaining what my algorithm is doing and if/where I disagree with it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

If you use an API to get stats for your algorithm would you be willing to say which ones? Making my own sounds like a fun casual project.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

I use https://collegefootballdata.com/ which has an API, though I don't actually use it (yet). I just navigate to "Data" > "Games and Results" and export the 2024 FBS games to a csv file and use that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

[email protected] took the words right out of my mouth. I agree that it can be pretty intimidating at first. Either to put together a computer poll (which I still haven't done as I haven't found one that represents my big orange bias well enough) or to put together a human poll. I would say if you're interested in the former most of the commenters around here are huge nerds (no offense y'all) and would likely be willing to show you a thing or two. Putting together a human poll is probably easier, but at least for me starting out I was certainly worried and sometimes blocked by my own perceived "correctness". Remember though, there are no right or wrong answers.

Part of the reason we have this open poll is to get as many ballots as possible, and smooth out any noise from strange rankings. We also have a lot of fun with those strange rankings, at least once a season we get a ballot with someones favorite team taking the top spot with no justification other than "Go " and it always brings a smile to my face at least. Again some advice if you're interested in starting your own human poll, a good place to start is by "correcting" the AP poll so that you think it's good. After a few weeks of this you start to get a hang for your own ranking system and again, there are no right or wrong answers. As an added bonus we're doing a cfb bracket prediction contest next week that you still have time to become eligible for! More information in the pinned post here.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My ballot. Computer poll. My Longhorns fall out of the top spot. Womp womp.

I genuinely checked USC about 5 times over the past couple days to make sure I didn't input any data incorrectly or screwed up the formula, but it actually has them tied for 9th. It's super nutty, but everything else checks out. The reason the Trojans are so high is mostly their schedule -- they didn't play any FCS teams, which get heavily docked in my algorithm. Although they've lost 4 games, they're all by 1 score. But with ND at the end of the year, that schedule is just brutal. It's like they're trying to get Lincoln Riley fired.

::: spoiler Full ranking:

Rank Change Team Record Points
1 +1 Notre Dame 7-1 576
2 -1 Texas 7-1 571
3 +2 Alabama 6-2 543
4 +4 Oregon 8-0 521
5 +1 Indiana 8-0 515
6 +11 Texas A&M 7-1 482
7 +3 Ole Miss 6-2 481
8 +1 Ohio State 6-1 479
T9 +2 Miami (FL) 8-0 475
T9 +2 USC 4-4 475
11 +3 BYU 8-0 467
12 -9 Clemson 6-1 461
13 -9 Georgia 6-1 459
14 +2 Virginia Tech 5-3 457
15 - SMU 7-1 453
16 +6 Penn State 7-0 449
17 -10 Tennessee 6-1 445
18 +1 LSU 6-2 426
19 +1 Georgia Tech 5-4 424
20 +8 Colorado 6-2 420
21 +5 Kansas State 7-1 419
22 +17 Arkansas 5-3 415
23 +4 Vanderbilt 5-3 411
24 +11 Minnesota 5-3 409
25 +5 JMU 6-2 408
26 -2 Wisconsin 5-3 407
27 -2 UNLV 6-2 404
28 -15 Iowa State 7-0 401
T29 - Cincinnati 5-3 400
T29 +12 Iowa 5-3 400
31 +3 Tulane 6-2 392
32 +12 California 4-4 390
T33 +3 Louisville 5-3 389
T33 -15 South Carolina 4-3 389
T35 -15 Army 7-0 385
T35 +4 Michigan 5-3 385
37 -6 Kentucky 3-5 382
38 +24 Pittsburgh 7-0 378
39 -16 Arizona State 5-2 375
40 +13 Baylor 4-4 374
41 - Duke 6-2 373
42 +2 Utah 4-4 372
T43 -11 Illinois 6-2 369
T43 -5 Washington 4-4 369
45 +20 Miami (OH) 4-4 366
46 - Boston College 4-4 365
T47 - Washington State 7-1 364
T47 -15 Missouri 6-2 364
T47 +5 Nebraska 5-3 364
T47 +7 Kansas 2-6 364
51 +4 TCU 5-3 362
52 -3 Memphis 7-1 360
T53 -4 Northern Illinois 4-4 358
T53 +27 North Carolina 4-4 358
55 -4 Oklahoma 4-4 357
56 +2 Sam Houston 6-2 354
T57 +6 Texas Tech 5-3 351
T57 +17 Auburn 3-5 351
59 +1 Connecticut 5-3 350
60 +11 Old Dominion 4-4 348
61 -14 Northwestern 3-5 346
62 +9 Jacksonville State 4-3 344
63 +3 Boise State 6-1 342
64 +14 West Virginia 4-4 339
T65 -6 Toledo 5-3 333
T65 -5 Maryland 4-4 333
T67 +13 Bowling Green 4-4 332
T67 +3 Oklahoma State 3-5 332
69 -33 Florida 4-3 331
70 -3 UCF 3-5 329
71 +17 South Alabama 4-4 327
72 -16 Navy 6-1 325
T73 -6 Rutgers 4-4 324
T73 +6 Arizona 3-5 324
75 -32 Texas State 4-3 322
T76 -13 Virginia 4-4 321
T76 +7 Michigan State 4-4 321
78 +8 Houston 3-5 319
79 +11 Fresno State 5-3 317
80 +13 Georgia Southern 5-3 313
T81 -25 Louisiana 6-1 310
T81 +1 UNT 5-3 310
T81 -8 Nevada 3-6 310
84 -9 San Jose State 5-3 308
T85 -8 Syracuse 5-2 307
T85 +10 Ohio 5-3 307
87 -3 Florida State 1-7 303
T88 +2 Eastern Michigan 5-3 299
T88 +10 Western Michigan 5-3 299
90 -23 Western Kentucky 5-2 292
91 +8 Wake Forest 4-4 288
T92 -19 NC State 4-4 284
T92 -7 Oregon State 4-4 284
T92 +1 FIU 2-6 284
95 +7 ECU 4-4 282
T96 +1 Colorado State 5-3 273
T96 +7 New Mexico 3-5 273
98 +3 Louisiana Tech 3-4 269
99 -13 UCLA 2-5 266
100 -11 Marshall 4-3 260
101 +5 Arkansas State 5-3 259
102 -6 Buffalo 4-4 257
T103 -11 Coastal Carolina 4-3 248
T103 +6 UTSA 3-5 248
105 -5 Mississippi State 1-7 245
106 +5 Liberty 5-1 242
T107 +5 Charlotte 3-5 241
T107 +9 Stanford 2-6 241
109 +3 Rice 2-6 240
110 +4 Troy 1-7 239
111 +8 Hawaii 3-5 238
112 -5 UL Monroe 5-2 235
T113 +2 San Diego State 3-4 234
T113 -5 Temple 2-6 234
115 -11 Central Michigan 3-5 233
116 +1 Wyoming 1-7 228
117 +1 Ball State 3-5 224
118 +1 UTEP 1-7 222
119 -15 FAU 2-5 221
120 +2 Georgia State 2-5 219
121 +2 Tulsa 3-5 210
122 -13 USF 3-4 206
123 +2 Utah State 2-6 205
T124 +8 Appalachian State 3-4 189
T124 +7 Akron 2-6 189
126 +1 Southern Mississippi 1-7 186
127 -8 Air Force 1-6 182
128 -4 Massachusetts 2-6 179
129 +1 Middle Tennessee 2-6 175
130 +3 Kennesaw State 1-6 171
131 -5 New Mexico State 2-5 157
132 -4 Purdue 1-6 153
133 -4 UAB 1-6 151
134 - Kent State 0-8 144
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Your computer usually isn't very kind to my Texas A&M Aggies...glad to see it's softening up on them some.

If the Longhorns and the Aggies both make it to Thanksgiving with only one loss, the hype is going to be unreal.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Oh I feel like it always places A&M too high (even trying to compensate for the Burnt Orange Bias), but this season it feels right. I'm surprised your computer has y'all as low as 12th -- although that is a very A&M number.

The hype for that game was always going to be off the charts, but I really hope we both run the table getting there to up the ante. It also becomes a de facto play-in game to the SECCCG. It would be awesome if that game could be a rematch, although unfortunately one of the teams will likely be Georgia. :/ There is good rematch potential in the playoff though. Salivating at the idea of beating A&M twice in one season...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Computer poll, resume ranking. Ohio State/Penn State gonna make things interesting this weekend. Also, Liberty fell 41 rankings with their loss to the Kennesaw Hoots, which is a huge change this late in the season.

  1. Oregon (1) | 8 - 0 | LW: 1 ( - )
  2. Penn State (5.35) | 7 - 0 | LW: 2 ( - )
  3. Ohio State (7.77) | 6 - 1 | LW: 6 (+3)
  4. Miami (9.96) | 8 - 0 | LW: 5 (+1)
  5. BYU (11.47) | 8 - 0 | LW: 4 (-1)
  6. Notre Dame (11.7) | 7 - 1 | LW: 9 (+3)
  7. Iowa State (11.82) | 7 - 0 | LW: 8 (+1)
  8. Indiana (13.1) | 8 - 0 | LW: 3 (-5)
  9. Pittsburgh (13.56) | 7 - 0 | LW: 13 (+4)
  10. Texas (13.65) | 7 - 1 | LW: 7 (-3)
  11. Alabama (14.88) | 6 - 2 | LW: 11 ( - )
  12. Texas A&M (16.56) | 7 - 1 | LW: 16 (+4)
  13. Georgia (18.77) | 6 - 1 | LW: 10 (-3)
  14. Boise State (20.02) | 6 - 1 | LW: 19 (+5)
  15. Kansas State (20.68) | 7 - 1 | LW: 12 (-3)
  16. SMU (22.52) | 7 - 1 | LW: 18 (+2)
  17. Clemson (22.97) | 6 - 1 | LW: 14 (-3)
  18. Tennessee (25.57) | 6 - 1 | LW: 20 (+2)
  19. Washington State (28.2) | 7 - 1 | LW: 21 (+2)
  20. LSU (30.75) | 6 - 2 | LW: 17 (-3)
  21. Army (31.71) | 7 - 0 | LW: 22 (+1)
  22. Ole Miss (35.05) | 6 - 2 | LW: 27 (+5)
  23. Colorado (35.77) | 6 - 2 | LW: 32 (+9)
  24. Navy (37.05) | 6 - 1 | LW: 15 (-9)
  25. Illinois (37.16) | 6 - 2 | LW: 23 (-2)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Here are the results from my computer poll. Oregon overtakes Indiana, and Notre Dame gets a big boost. Navy sadly falls out of the Top 25, but still on the bubble.

  1. Oregon
  2. Indiana
  3. Notre Dame
  4. Penn State
  5. Miami
  6. Texas
  7. Texas A&M
  8. Pittsburgh
  9. Ohio State
  10. BYU
  11. Clemson
  12. SMU
  13. Kansas State
  14. Iowa State
  15. Tennessee
  16. Georgia
  17. LSU
  18. Alabama
  19. Colorado
  20. Army
  21. Virginia Tech
  22. Ole Miss
  23. Boise State
  24. Washington State
  25. Tulane

:::spoiler Full Rankings

Rank Team Record Rating SOS
1 Oregon (8-0) 1376 963
2 Indiana (8-0) 1363 883
3 Notre Dame (7-1) 1352 1024
4 Penn State (7-0) 1333 980
5 Miami (8-0) 1323 936
6 Texas (7-1) 1312 1018
7 Texas A&M (7-1) 1311 1014
8 Pittsburgh (7-0) 1301 897
9 Ohio State (6-1) 1281 1053
10 BYU (8-0) 1279 927
11 Clemson (6-1) 1277 972
12 SMU (7-1) 1274 939
13 Kansas State (7-1) 1271 975
14 Iowa State (7-0) 1269 923
15 Tennessee (6-1) 1269 920
16 Georgia (6-1) 1265 992
17 LSU (6-2) 1234 1021
18 Alabama (6-2) 1233 1130
19 Colorado (6-2) 1226 974
20 Army (7-0) 1223 760
21 Virginia Tech (5-3) 1210 1040
22 Ole Miss (6-2) 1205 933
23 Boise State (6-1) 1204 963
24 Washington State (7-1) 1189 931
25 Tulane (6-2) 1177 894
26 Memphis (7-1) 1167 823
27 Illinois (6-2) 1154 980
28 Minnesota (5-3) 1148 932
29 Louisville (5-3) 1144 1047
30 Vanderbilt (5-3) 1144 979
31 Navy (6-1) 1142 861
32 Arkansas (5-3) 1135 952
33 Western Kentucky (5-2) 1122 871
34 Missouri (6-2) 1121 960
35 Wisconsin (5-3) 1118 954
36 Cincinnati (5-3) 1115 1006
37 Iowa (5-3) 1113 970
38 Michigan (5-3) 1112 1093
39 Florida (4-3) 1110 997
40 Nebraska (5-3) 1110 982
41 South Carolina (4-3) 1110 1064
42 Syracuse (5-2) 1110 952
43 Arizona State (5-2) 1108 926
44 Louisiana (6-1) 1108 829
45 TCU (5-3) 1100 909
46 Duke (6-2) 1099 908
47 UNLV (6-2) 1098 914
48 Old Dominion (4-4) 1091 997
49 James Madison (6-2) 1090 863
50 Baylor (4-4) 1061 964
51 Miami (OH) (4-4) 1061 976
52 Georgia Southern (5-3) 1057 942
53 Washington (4-4) 1056 988
54 Sam Houston (6-2) 1055 867
55 USC (4-4) 1053 1078
56 Fresno State (5-3) 1051 893
57 Texas Tech (5-3) 1048 982
58 Georgia Tech (5-4) 1042 996
59 UConn (5-3) 1035 852
60 Liberty (5-1) 1032 737
61 North Carolina (4-4) 1032 993
62 West Virginia (4-4) 1027 1033
63 Jacksonville State (4-3) 1024 837
64 Wake Forest (4-4) 1024 976
65 UL Monroe (5-2) 1022 842
66 Ohio (5-3) 1014 871
67 Michigan State (4-4) 1012 1006
68 Colorado State (5-3) 1011 878
69 California (4-4) 1006 958
70 Texas State (4-3) 1001 872
71 Western Michigan (5-3) 999 865
72 Marshall (4-3) 996 938
73 North Texas (5-3) 990 886
74 Boston College (4-4) 989 980
75 South Alabama (4-4) 989 897
76 NC State (4-4) 988 972
77 Maryland (4-4) 987 986
78 Oklahoma (4-4) 982 1104
79 Auburn (3-5) 980 963
80 Toledo (5-3) 975 855
81 Virginia (4-4) 972 973
82 Houston (3-5) 964 1024
83 UCLA (2-5) 962 1173
84 Arkansas State (5-3) 957 874
85 East Carolina (4-4) 957 890
86 Bowling Green (4-4) 955 918
87 UCF (3-5) 939 1069
88 Kentucky (3-5) 935 1066
89 San José State (5-3) 931 815
90 Coastal Carolina (4-3) 930 929
91 Utah (4-4) 920 900
92 San Diego State (3-4) 918 832
93 Rutgers (4-4) 913 960
94 Eastern Michigan (5-3) 908 805
95 Kansas (2-6) 906 1015
96 Northwestern (3-5) 903 1025
97 Buffalo (4-4) 898 893
98 Oklahoma State (3-5) 897 991
99 Charlotte (3-5) 895 994
100 Oregon State (4-4) 893 926
101 Arizona (3-5) 889 1004
102 South Florida (3-4) 887 959
103 Northern Illinois (4-4) 873 896
104 Ball State (3-5) 871 904
105 App State (3-4) 866 939
106 Florida State (1-7) 862 1147
107 New Mexico (3-5) 858 817
108 Hawai'i (3-5) 842 866
109 Tulsa (3-5) 834 862
110 Stanford (2-6) 824 1093
111 Temple (2-6) 818 985
112 Louisiana Tech (3-4) 816 739
113 Central Michigan (3-5) 810 885
114 Mississippi State (1-7) 805 1077
115 Nevada (3-6) 801 921
116 Rice (2-6) 801 944
117 UTSA (3-5) 799 850
118 Purdue (1-6) 797 1058
119 Florida Atlantic (2-5) 790 888
120 Utah State (2-6) 780 879
121 Akron (2-6) 767 948
122 Florida International (2-6) 754 874
123 Georgia State (2-5) 753 942
124 New Mexico State (2-5) 752 891
125 Massachusetts (2-6) 727 830
126 UTEP (1-7) 724 912
127 Middle Tennessee (2-6) 720 942
128 UAB (1-6) 717 998
129 Kennesaw State (1-6) 707 859
130 Southern Miss (1-7) 697 928
131 Troy (1-7) 691 931
132 Wyoming (1-7) 684 885
133 Air Force (1-6) 676 870
134 Kent State (0-8) 592 1004
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

My ballot this week, late as with everything else as I play catch up. Poll will be up in maybe a few hours as I gotta bust out some work before I have time for that.

  1. Oregon
  2. Georgia
  3. Miami (FL)
  4. Tennessee
  5. Texas
  6. Indiana
  7. Iowa State
  8. Ohio State
  9. Army
  10. LSU
  11. Clemson
  12. Notre Dame
  13. Penn State
  14. Illinois
  15. BYU
  16. Texas A&M
  17. Boise State
  18. Pittsburgh
  19. Vanderbilt
  20. Alabama
  21. Kansas State
  22. Washington State
  23. UNLV
  24. Nebraska
  25. Arkansas

Also ngl, as a gator hator, they are probably on my short list of missing the ballot this week. If they manage an upset at TWLOCP...