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For me, it was that the Internet never forgets and that you should never enter your real name. In my opinion, both of these rules are now completely ignored.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The rules for abbreviations.

IIRC YMMV bc IANAL

Netspeak fluency has generally given way to textspeak.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

If I recall correctly your mileage may vary because I anal?

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago (13 children)

I learned as a kid playing star craft that there are noobs and newbs. Newbs are people new to a game who need help learning. And a noob is someone who has played for a while and refuses to learn and would rather troll.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I just discovered this morning that my nephew is a noob then.

This actually perfectly fits. He’s been homeless. Let him stay with me. He got a job pretty quick. But today, his fourth day, he was late because he set his alarm for 7:30 instead of 6:30.

I’ve been unconsciously treating him as a newb, because he acts like a teenager. It just automatically activates a father instinct for me.

But he’s almost 30. He’s had plenty of time to figure this shit out.

We went and got groceries last night. He bought almost nothing but simple carbs. Most of that coming from straight sugar. Like, fruit punch drinks and shit. He eats like a six year old at a candy store.

Well, not quite that bad. But bad. And his health is fucked up. He sees no connection between subsisting on simple carbs and having health problems, addiction, etc.

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When you share something cool, link back to the original creator or where you found it from.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I’d argue this is the opposite of what was asked.

In the early days, no one would post sources or attribute “stuff” to anyone. We’d all just share what we thought were cool pictures.

Now, everyone gets mad when you dont post the name of the artist and their socials.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

This might be more of a blogosphere-era thing I guess. Even when most people blogging did it for pleasure rather than work, it was always considered polite to "hat tip" (h/t) the source of a given link, if you happened to find it on someone else's site.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

I would posit a big part of this is because early-net days were primarily for just socializing and sharing cool stuff (heck yeah, I miss it.) Artists probably didn't make a majority of their living through the 'net. If something was shared it was likely just "I think this is cool, folks!"

Nowadays, to say the Internet is heavily commercialized would be a massive understatement. Every little interaction is monetized. Many people make their entire living through e-commerce. It's just how things went.

Meanwhile you have a billion faceless sandfleas with repost-botfarms trying to hustle cash with the stupidest methods possible.

You'll see entire channels where animations or paintings or whatever are circulated on socials like youtube, twitter, or tiktok with the artist tag conveniently cropped out (if there was one).

Some are outright stealing the work for profit (selling tshirts or something), while others are just using it to farm clicks, which is also a route to profit.

The artist who made the work is cheated, perhaps unaware, as some click-grifter gets all the attention. And that sucks. :( As an artist myself, I try to make sure I share the sources for stuff now, because recognition is a form of thanks, at the very least.

I miss the sharing internet...the attention economy has basically turned the internet into a sociological illustration of "The paperclip apocalypse". :(

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

As in real life, it's pretty sound advice to ignore, block or otherwise disengage from trolls and other forms of belligerents. Even in the '90s when I first started using the internet, the phrase of the day was "don't feed the trolls". But people just can't help themselves. They will even reply saying "I know you're a troll, but...".

The Steam forums are a great example, where every other thread is a fake "is this game woke??" screed. The fact that you can be rewarded for being a cunt there with jesters (which translate into points that can be spent to buy profile items) just makes it a thousand times worse. You get 'paid' to be a troll on Steam. It's insanity.

The only anti-troll weapon that works or is needed is oblivion. Let their steaming turd of a post curdle in solitude. Don't even downvote it. Being downvoted is a victory for them, an acknowledgement that they exist and that they've gotten your attention and that they've annoyed you. Shadowban them from your mind. Block them so that no future posts of theirs will infect your screen. Report them so mods can remove/ban them. Just don't engage directly with the post or the user. Don't say "blocked and reported" in the troll's thread/post. Just do it silently.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 day ago

On the Internet I grew up on, pretty much anything was ok except to discuss (or even speculate about) the real-world identities of users who didn't very openly disclose them.

Now many people think the latter is ok.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 day ago (11 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

twitter built itself on doing this the most nonsensical and annoying way possible.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

I’ve never used Twitter and every time I see a post with like… the original comment in the middle, a reply on top, and a reply again? On bottom? I’m like what the fuck is even how

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Don't feed the trolls.

Of course nowadays its nearly impossible to tell whos spouting racial slurs to get folks mad and whos doing it because they're just an asshole.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 20 hours ago

More recently, this behaviour is known as "driving engagement"

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago

Don't feed the AI

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

I remember when it was just funny edgy humor that was clearly satirical for the most part because a lot of us were just dumb kids. It was abrasive and stupid but you had this feeling everyone was in on the joke.

But bizarre satire has turned to deeply held conviction.

I'm not just sad that the mean spirited trolling persists, but that it's gotten more sincere and often must be taken seriously. :(

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

Most of them. Don't believe everything you see, don't give out personal information or real-life pictures... the usual.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 day ago

When reading a long text, disconnect from the internet as soon as it has loaded so you don't pay for the time you spend reading.

[–] [email protected] 115 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Dont believe anyone on the internet.

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[–] [email protected] 110 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Don’t pick up the phone if someone is online… I’m old

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I’m a millennial, I learned this, and now I just don’t pick up the phone.

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Social media killed online aliases and I have a hard time deciding if we're all worse for it.

Instinctively I still stick by that, though, as you can tell by my anonymous profile with no bio, but when I volunteer any amount of personal info these days people are often confused that I'm not sharing openly who I am or where I'm from. Every time someone does that it weirds me out because in the 90s telling (and asking) people those things would have been such a suspicious, sketchy move.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 23 hours ago

Every time someone does that it weirds me out because in the 90s telling (and asking) people those things would have been such a suspicious, sketchy move.

And now it's come 180 in that some see it as a red flag if you don't give up that information. I had someone on a different social media site accuse me of being a bot because I wouldn't give up the specific town I'm from. I've seen it happen to others too. It is both fascinating and insane how viewpoints have changed regarding identifying yourself online.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago (3 children)

in the 90s telling (and asking) people those things would have been such a suspicious, sketchy move.

a/s/l?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We were all 18/f/cal come on man…

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 day ago (19 children)

I'm a faithful follower of never using your real name in social parts of the internet. We don't need to know and we don't want to know. The only ones who would want to know are scammers or people wanting to give you a shitty time. I only use my real name online for people and places in where it's required like talking to agents from my bank, insurance .etc And very few friends know my real name through FB and the circle anyways.

Don't send nudes online to anybody. I know of some communities where people happily are flaunting it one moment then they make a post later whining about them being exploited or that they thought they were crafty hiding the nudes from someone they're married with. They delete it but they're too naive to think that what's already out there, has most likely been saved by hundreds by now, so you're fucked either way.

Another is, is that if you want to be understood, then you need to use proper spelling and grammar. I miss the days when you got kicked at because you used 'u' in replacement of 'you'. It's just two fucking extra letters you lazy asshole. These days saying stupid shit like; 'yah fr u tha fam' is somehow a complete sentence. No, I'm going to give you shit for it and if you want me to bother caring with what you have to say, fucking make some sense. I don't even get offended by insults when they're poorly spelled, it just tells me what kind of an inept moron you are.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I'm with you on the no real names, no nudes. "Don't dox yourself" was the norm pre-Myspace. Facebook made it almost fashionable to do so.

I'm fine with shorthand and colloquialisms, especially in the era of the smartphone and their lack of physical keyboards.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Facebook made it almost fashionable to do so.

"

Zuck: yea so if you ever need info about anyone at harvard just ask

Zuck: i have over 4000 emails, pictures, addresses, sns

Friend: what!? how’d you manage that one?

Zuck: people just submitted it

Zuck: i don’t know why

Zuck: they “trust me”

Zuck: dumb fucks

"

One of many sources

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 day ago

I remember being taught in school to apply source criticism, and that seems to have largely died as a concept.

This was back in the early 2000s...

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I was taught to cite websites by using the date the page was updated. Now I'm lucky if web pages even have a date on them.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago

Oh, that one's easy! Just use the internet archivenevermind.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Never trust anything you read on the internet

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sticking around and "lurking" for a bit before you try to engage with a new community, to learn the local etiquette before you make an ass of yourself. Or at least reading the rules as a bare minimum.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago

I'm old enough to remember reading about netiquette.

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