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Republicans in the battleground states of Michigan and Arizona are paying a high price for their full-throated support of former President Donald Trump and his lie that the 2020 election was stolen from him.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is good news, but I worry that folks on the left might be lulled into a false sense of security. We won't be done fixing Trump and MAGA's mess for years to come and we'll need every last vote and any help that can be given. I really believe complacency got us here and it will destroy this country if we let it.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Complacency is a real threat. Everyone needs to vote to remove republicans. They want to change the rules so they can always win. If enough Trump supporters were in the right places of power last election, we'd have lost our democracy.

Trump is a liar. But he is running a cult of fanatics. Ironically Trump said he could shoot someone on 5th Ave and he wouldn't loose any voters. He was correct about that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Everyone needs to vote. Period. Doesn't matter which side you're on. If everyone actually in the voter rolls votes in person with ID, there's no room for either side to claim it was stolen or manipulated.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

They still will claim fraud regardless. Voting by mail or other methods allowed are available and easier. Just remember to do it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

~~in person with ID~~

No, those kinds of restrictions only exist to disenfranchise voters.

(Not sure why the strikethrough markup isn't working.)

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Not everyone can vote in person. I vote by mail because of my job. Voting by mail is legitimate.

And Trump claimed the 2016 and 2020 elections were rigged and stolen before the elections or counting was done. It is a way to for criminals to try to steal elections and cast doubt on our voting process. It is evil.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

There's no room for it to be claimed that 2020 was stolen. There never was, but 3 years later, there's overwhelming evidence it was fair. That hasn't stopped it being a major part of the GOP platform.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Exaclty. In 2016, they kept going on and on about how the Trump operation was in shambles and poorly organized, etc., etc. They still won.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not paying a high enough price, though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't think of a greater price to pay actually. Losing donors and cash is (hopefully) a precursor to losing voters and mindshare. There's no better punishment than being utterly forgotten, relegated to the dustbin of history.

I can dream, right?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

No, we cannot allow the current rise of fascism to be forgotten. We must be vigilant against it, always. Reminded that a slow burn of low-grade shit suddenly becomes a wildfire if you ignore it.

I just hope there is an opportunity to remember this as a near loss of democracy in this country, instead of a time we actually lost it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Five other Republican donors to the Arizona or Michigan parties, who have each donated tens of thousands of dollars over the past six years, told Reuters they had also ceased giving money, citing state leaders' drives to overturn the 2020 election, their backing of losing candidates who support Trump's election conspiracy and what they view as extreme positions on issues like abortion.

Chickens have come home to roost.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You love to see it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
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