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[–] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 19 points 2 years ago (13 children)

How does that even work? I'm not in USA so I can't even access that page.

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[–] aramis87@fedia.io 54 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Musk put up a PAC that pays non-voters in swing states $47 to register to vote (because the next president will be #47). I'm not sure if he has restrictions on his thing, like maybe you have to live in a red area in a swing state or something. Anyway, I think CAH has set it up so you can redirect that money to them instead.

Last I heard, you weren't supposed to give people money to register to vote or promising to vote or anything like that, but trump was filmed giving out hundred dollar bills last week, musk is handing out money for registering, and now this. I'm not sure what's going on except everything's really fucked.

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[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (1 child)

you weren't supposed to give people money to register to vote or promising to vote or anything like that

It's also incredibly stupid. You have no way of tracking who someone votes for once they're in the booth. If I was in a swing state I'd be happy to take musk's cash and vote for Harris like I was always going to do.

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[–] neatchee@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This is why it's (sort of?) legal to do what they're doing: paying for someone to vote a specific way is illegal for sure. And paying someone to vote is also illegal. But I believe that ~~paying someone to REGISTER to vote is legal so long as you do not actively restrict who can participate.~~ It's also okay to pay someone to write down a plan on HOW to vote, and to pay someone to write shit on the internet.

So yeah. It's very borderline. ~~But I think it technically passes muster~~

Nope, I was wrong. Paying people to register is still illegal

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[–] fishos@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Yeah, I get it's a counter protest, and it's probably supposed to feel slimey and manipulative, but that's all I feel from it. I don't see some good side to this. I just see an overall destruction of our ideals.

It's a sad state of affairs when the jesters are the only ones left speaking the truth. Satire has become reality.

It's exhausting.

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[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago (4 children)

It's bad for public schools to have religious officials as part of their staff. When The Stanic Temple does it the point isn't to have people say "it's okay when people we like do it" the point is to say "you guys are bending the rules? Okay, we'll bend them until they break to force you to put a stop to it."

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[–] Soup@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago*

And yet the Republicans worked tirelessly on shit like making it so that water bottles can’t be handed out to those waiting in lines on hot voting days lest it sway someone’s vote.

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[–] TAG@lemmy.world [S] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

How does the Musk part work? Musk launched a petition to pledge support for guns and free speech (I think that is what it is about, I did not read it nor understand how that is a petition). To AstroTurf support for the petition, he set up a referral code system. If you get a voter in a key state to sign the petition and say that you told the voter to sign, Musk's Super PAC will pay you $47.

Getting people to sign Musk's petition feels a bit wrong, even if the money is going to what CAH thinks is a good cause.

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[–] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Man, USA politics are wild.

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[–] where_am_i@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago*

Open the link. "Half of Americans didn't vote in the last election". Me: that can't be right, let's fact check.

Oh, yeah, 150 mil voted, 150 didn't, but that's a 66% turnout. On top of that turnout is higher in the blue states. Oopsie. See the map. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_United_States_presidential_elections

now that I've read the whole PAC thing it also makes sense why it was started. The data is on their side.

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[–] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 25 points 2 years ago (13 children)

I'm all in favor of getting people to vote, but it seems out of line to pay people to vote (or at least claim they're going to vote) for your party. Even if the other guys did it first, an eye for an eye makes the world blind.

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[–] Masta_Chief@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago (1 child)

They say it shouldn't be legal. The first answer on the FAQ:

"Whats happening?

Cards Against Humanity is exploiting a legal loophole to pay America’s blue-leaning non-voters to (1) apologize for not voting last time, (2) walk us through a step-by-step plan of how they’d vote this time, and (3) post “Donald Trump is a human toilet” on social media. This whole thing should probably be illegal—so quick, give us your money before they change the law!"

The entire FAQ is worth a read, it's pretty funny

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[–] where_am_i@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

I'm slowly getting the joke.

All of this is actually legal, so they're making sure it becomes illegal. But I suspect they'll go bankrupt before that, lol

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[–] subignition@fedia.io 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's not asking for either of those things. The site's terms explain it pretty plainly:

We are running a promotion to encourage eligible voters in the November 5, 2024 General Election in the United States that were eligible but did not vote in the 2022 or 2020 general elections to apologize for not voting (the “Promotion”).

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ii. Receive an Entry by completing the following process:

Entering your phone number;

Entering your name, state of residence, and email, or additional information if needed to verify whether you voted in the 2020 General Election;

If you did not vote in the 2020 General Election, enter your apology for not voting;

Create a voting plan for if you would vote this year;

To receive the full benefit, post on social media that #DonaldTrumpIsAHumanToilet. Not posting on social media will result in a reduced Benefit.

iii. “Voting plan” refers to your receipt of and acknowledgment of information on how you could legally cast your ballot in the November 2024 General Election.

iv. We will not check, confirm, or in any way ensure that you actually vote or follow the voting plan that you made. Creating a voting plan is not in any way a pledge that you will actually vote, and the Benefit is in no way conditioned on voting, or pledging or promising to vote. VOTING, OR NOT VOTING, IN NO WAY IMPACTS ELIGIBILITY FOR THE BENEFIT, OR THE AMOUNT OF THE BENEFIT.

edit: formatting

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[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

edit: formatting

😂

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[–] subignition@fedia.io 1 point 2 years ago

It's hard to blockquote things in Markdown, you always need more > than you expect :c

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[–] Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

I agree. But it is a great example of why this is a shit idea that shouldn't be allowed in the first place which I wager is at least partly what they're going for

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[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 8 points 2 years ago

Pretty sure it's in reaction to Elon promising people who vote 47 dollars. You know, actually advertising to buy actual votes

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[–] Mango@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Well, the other side is doing it so they're doing it almost identically so if they get in trouble for it, Musk should too.

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[–] Soup@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Apparently it’s in response to Musk and Trump handing out money.

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[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

they are not paying people to vote, they are paying people to apologize for not voting.

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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

What if I voted and want a hundred bucks. I'm willing to make a shitter account to call TFG a human toilet for a hundred bucks.

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[–] TAG@lemmy.world [S] 4 points 2 years ago

According to them, they registered a Super PAC to run this promotion. As a Super PAC, they were able to buy data about voters (did the voter vote in the last election and, separately, predicted party affiliation based on profiling).

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[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

How do you know who didn’t vote?

We formed a Super PAC and bought the personal voting records of every American citizen from a data broker we found on the internet. It’s pretty fucked up.