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The Busybox developers have released version 1.37.0, with some 50 changes.

Its developers call Busybox the "Swiss Army knife" of embedded Linux, because in one relatively small tool, it implements not just a Unix-style shell, but also about 300 different commands that are normally external programs in their own right. As a result, it's often found inside devices that use Linux in very resource-constrained environments, such as consumer firewall/routers.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (3 children)

"Noooooooo! One tool should do one thing and one thing only! Blasphemy! Heresy! Anthema! Systemd!" crying in unix design philosophy

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

yeahs systemd I know yada yada :)

But working with embedded stuff, sometimes MCU with like 8MB embedded flash, have a 512k uboot, 1.5MB kernel, you are left with 6MB of flash for the whole application and lib, and busybox is a savior here!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

it was a joke xD i like busybox (and systemd) i don't particularly subscribe to the unix way, but to each their own ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

IMO, "One app/library/etc does one thing only" is a rather ignorant form of wisdom about encapsulation, anyways.

Encapsulation is important regardless of how many disparate tasks a library handles. Doing one thing with one thing is a pretty good rule of thumb to get close to good results, but it is FAR from a golden standard, and serves to drag people away from the finer nuances of encapsulation.

The ONLY time it is a hard and fast rule is at the individual function level. A single function ideally should have one task to accomplish, even if that task has side effects.

I'm sure there are cross-dependency issues on an OS level that makes it a bit wiser to do for widely used system tasks, but to make it an absolute rule smacks of wisdom gone awry. Like not eating shellfish in the bible.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Haha, but it's really a pack of tools, more like a toolbox.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

BUT IT'S A SINGLE BINARY! UNACCEPTBLE!!!! THE BLOAT OF IT ALL!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

almost like it has box in the name for some sort of reason

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

nice rhymes

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Isn't Alpine hype now?