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"With 102 deniers on election boards in the swing states, the potential for creating chaos is enormous."

More than 100 election officials across eight swing states in the U.S. presidential race have engaged in partisan election denial in recent years, raising fears they could try to turn the November result in favor of Republican nominee Donald Trump, according to a report released Friday. 

The 88-page report, produced by the Center for Media and Democracy (CMD), details the election denial history of 102 county and state election officials in Arizona, Wisconsin, Georgia, Nevada, New Mexico, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Michigan. The authors found that election deniers have majority control of 15 county election boards in those states and of the statewide board in Georgia. 

"What was striking to us about our research is how much election denialism and the voter fraud lie have infiltrated and taken over the Republican apparatus in each of these critical states," Arn Pearson, CMD's executive director, told The Guardian.

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 month ago

Everyone needs to vote to cover “the margin of shenanigans” that undoubtedly will arise in swing states and to ensure a popular vote so high that a certain crybully will cry harder.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Isn’t that the Project 2025 plan? The bloodless coup thing?

Refuse to certify. Kick it to the house where Mike also refuses to certify. And if too many DEMs win for a flip refuse to certify them. Kick it to the states where each Governor gets one vote. Right now, that’s a Trump win.

Constitutional. Happened once in American history.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You have the right idea, but a bunch of facts are wrong:

  • the States role is simply in validating and certifying the vote in each state. Once that slate is affirmed by the Governor or Secretary of State, the State's role is over. This is where the chicanery is still possible, but the tactic of "just have the losing side pretend they won and submit votes anyway" was soundly rejected in 2020/1, with most of those electors now facing charges. (Cases involving Trump have been delayed, but others where prosecutors made the choice to not charge him yet but charge others are progressing). It is more likely that local officials may delay the certification, but I hope State officials overrule that.

  • They did pass a law overhauling the EC count process, and clarifying that the VPs job in it is simply overseeing it, and she has no power to reject results she doesn't like. (Besides, Harris will still be VP whe they count the EC votes.)

  • If there is no EC majority, it doesn't go back to the States, the POTUS election goes to the House and the VP election goes to the Senate. The catch is that in the House, each State delegation gets one vote, so Wyoming's lone rep gets the same vote as all 50+ of California's reps. Republicans hold an advantage here, but a Blue Wave could eliminate it, as it would be the newly elected House making this vote.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

shades of bush gore i guess? but more to it.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago

Yes. Again, as we here all know, THAT’S THE PLAN.

When they crammed these bullshit ‘certification’ laws through in early 2021 (what else happened then? Nothing i guess) it was lying in wait for this moment coming up in seven weeks.

Maybe corporate news could explain that to Captain BigTruck and the Book Burnin’ Karen Klubs around the country. Instead of doing the absolute least possible and pretending they’ve done their job.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

It's crazy the kind of mental gymnastic you need to do in order to be both talking about the greatest democracy in the world (lol) and actively preventing people from voting, therefore getting in the way of democracy...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Looking forward to it. Should be fun when the chaos starts and legitimate votes start being questioned in my state.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Yes, as enjoyable as slamming your head against a brick wall over and over again until you pass out.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Infiltrated.... Installed

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