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2. Miami Miami
3. Ohio State Ohio State
4. Penn State Penn State
5. Notre Dame Notre Dame
6. Indiana Indiana
7. Georgia Georgia
8. Texas A&M Texas A&M
9. Texas Texas
10. BYU BYU
11. Tennessee Tennessee
12. Clemson Clemson
13. Iowa State Iowa State
14. Alabama Alabama
15. Pitt Pitt
16. LSU Louisiana State
T-17. Kansas State Kansas State
T-17. SMU SMU
19. Ole Miss Mississippi
20. Army Army
21. Boise State Boise State
22. Illinois Illinois
T-23. Colorado Colorado
T-23. Washington State Washington State
25. Virginia Tech Virginia Tech

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Place Team Points #1 Votes Movement
1 Georgia 100 4 -
2 Texas 88 0 +1
3 Notre Dame 82 0 +4
4 Ohio State 80 0 -
5 Oregon 65 0 -3
6 Miami (FL) 64 0 +7
7 alabama 62 0 +4
8 Oklahoma 60 0 -
9 USC 59 0 +9
10 Ole Miss 58 0 -
10 Penn State 58 0 -4
12 Michigan 51 0 -
13 Tennessee 42 0 +3
14 Missouri 37 0 +2
14 Utah 37 0 +4
16 Oklahoma State 36 0 -3
17 Georgia Tech 27 0 NR
17 Kansas 27 0 +6
19 LSU 24 0 -10
20 Florida State 22 0 -15
20 Kansas State 22 0 +3
20 Louisville 22 0 NR
20 SMU 22 0 -2
24 Boston College 20 0 NR
24 Iowa 20 0 -2

Others receiving votes: Texas A&M (19), Clemson (15), Wisconsin (12), Vanderbilt (11), Kentucky (10), UNLV (8), Maryland (7), Boise State (6), Iowa State (6), NC State (5), Auburn (4), Arizona (3), UCF (3), Washington (3), Virginia Tech (2), Arizona State (1)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don't get this group. How is Florida State ranked, while Texas A&M and Clemson aren't? Never mind that Boston College is 4 spots behind. I didn't put them on my poll, which means that Florida State got an average of #19 from the other 3 voters. I don't know how you look at that team and still think the Seminoles are a top 20 team.

alabama is all lowercase, please don't fix it.

The spreadsheet of votes is locked. I can't see where all the polls ranked everyone.

I see a few other trends, but I think they are just outliers due to the small sample size. I bet it will all get figured out in the next 2 weeks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Capitalization is for proper nouns and alabama is not a proper place...

FSU got ranked highly due to one of the computer polls, FSU has played more games but they'll drop out of that poll in the coming weeks (check the poll in this comment: https://lemmy.world/comment/12160842). But with only 4 ballots that's enough to keep them ranked.

I'll look into unlocking the poll results, I certainly want this to be transparent

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I see now about Florida State. I remember that poll from last year was had a few outliers early on, but I felt like it came together nicely at the end. It explains almost all of their points.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I didn't rank Florida State, so make that 2 other voters. b/t this poll and last year's polls, some of the people using computer polls need to work on refining their algorithms :P

I too would like to see the spreadsheet.

Hopefully, there are more submissions in the coming weeks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I think the spreadsheet permissions have been updated, feel free to yell at me if not

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

USC won. Clemson lost. Clemson is no longer in the poll results.

The only thing that could make this week better is if Georgia had also lost, but... gotta pick the lesser evil 😆

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Updated the banner and sidebar!

I see I'm catching a lot of flack here for my computer poll (and understandably so), to which I say: vote in the poll! The more participants, the more my funky algorithm gets drowned out. I will say, I did tweak it this year to further devalue preseason expectations, but I can't let it just stand on 1.5 weeks of data. Preseason expectations get fully flushed out after week 4.

Also, because the transfer portal makes it so hard to get a read on rosters early in the season, I outsourced the returning production variable to Action Network's metric. It worked pretty well last year, but I'm not sure they're on the mark this year. If anyone has a better source (that is free or cheap), I'm willing to give it a try for next year.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

My ballot -- still a little weird from preseason expectations, but that's mostly factored out now. The bigger issue is that 2-3 weeks of data is too small a sample size for the computer to know what to do with. Teams that played P4 teams are very high (even if they lost), whereas teams that played FCS schools are very low (even if they blew them out). Teams that already had a bye are even lower (exacerbated by this season having an extra bye week). It should all be sorted out in a couple weeks.

I will say, by eye test I really disagree with some of these rankings (I mean, ou up to number 4???) but I find the pure data intriguing, especially for spots 40ish through 134 which a lot of people ignore. I'm considering a few tweaks (to diminish the effects of garbage time stat padding), but it would make the algorithm more complex. Without fully automating it, I need to keep it simple enough to tabulate semi-manually every week. Hoping I can use next offseason to tinker with some scripts.

::: spoiler Full ranking:

Rank Change Team Record Points
1 +1 Texas 2-0 461
2 -1 Georgia 2-0 438
3 +2 Ohio State 2-0 375
4 +3 Oklahoma 2-0 347
5 +1 Penn State 2-0 339
6 +5 USC 2-0 338
7 -4 Oregon 2-0 323
8 -4 Florida State 0-2 314
9 +7 Georgia Tech 2-1 309
10 +0 SMU 2-1 305
11 -2 Notre Dame 1-1 302
12 -4 Miami (FL) 2-0 300
13 +9 Alabama 2-0 286
14 +13 Nebraska 2-0 279
15 +3 Clemson 1-1 277
16 +22 Tennessee 2-0 271
17 +6 Ole Miss 2-0 270
18 +1 Louisville 2-0 267
19 +9 Maryland 1-1 261
T20 +5 Missouri 2-0 258
T20 -8 Texas A&M 1-1 258
22 -10 LSU 1-1 257
23 +1 Virginia Tech 1-1 256
24 -9 Michigan 1-1 253
25 +21 South Carolina 2-0 252
26 -6 Oklahoma State 2-0 251
T27 -7 Iowa State 2-0 250
T27 +9 North Carolina 2-0 250
T27 -11 Iowa 1-1 250
30 +7 Boise State 1-1 244
31 +1 Utah 2-0 242
T32 -18 Wisconsin 2-0 237
T32 +0 Boston College 2-0 237
T32 +11 Syracuse 2-0 237
35 -10 Kentucky 1-1 236
36 -6 Kansas State 2-0 232
37 -6 Kansas 1-1 231
T38 +11 Rutgers 2-0 225
T38 +23 Arizona State 2-0 225
40 -5 Auburn 1-1 221
41 +14 UCF 2-0 218
42 +8 Northwestern 1-1 217
T43 +8 California 2-0 216
T43 +17 Nevada 2-0 216
T43 +34 Northern Illinois 1-2 216
T46 +12 Texas State 2-0 213
T46 +24 Pittsburgh 2-0 213
48 -5 Liberty 2-0 210
49 -4 UNLV 2-0 209
50 -12 Arizona 2-0 207
51 -17 West Virginia 1-1 201
T52 -5 Indiana 2-0 200
T52 -23 Miami (OH) 0-1 200
54 +4 Houston 0-2 198
T55 +8 Memphis 2-0 197
T55 +9 Duke 2-0 197
T55 +13 Illinois 2-0 197
58 -6 TCU 2-0 196
59 +5 Washington 2-0 195
T60 +13 Louisiana 2-0 194
T60 -13 Minnesota 1-1 194
62 -22 Florida 1-1 193
63 -22 Fresno State 1-1 192
64 +0 Old Dominion 0-2 190
T65 +30 Washington State 2-0 187
T65 -11 Colorado 1-1 187
67 +32 Michigan State 2-0 185
68 +7 Toledo 2-0 184
69 +15 Oregon State 2-0 181
70 +1 Bowling Green 1-1 180
T71 -30 Appalachian State 1-1 178
T71 -18 Rice 1-1 178
T73 -16 UTSA 1-1 175
T73 -1 FAU 0-2 175
75 +5 Arkansas 1-1 173
T76 +2 Baylor 1-1 172
T76 +2 Sam Houston 1-1 172
T76 +12 Georgia Southern 1-1 172
79 +17 BYU 2-0 171
80 +39 FIU 1-1 170
81 +5 Cincinnati 1-1 169
82 +22 Ohio 1-1 168
T83 +7 Mississippi State 1-1 167
T83 -1 South Alabama 0-2 167
T85 +11 ECU 2-0 164
T85 -18 USF 1-1 164
T87 -6 Coastal Carolina 2-0 163
T87 -31 UCLA 1-0 163
T89 -5 Arkansas State 2-0 162
T89 -28 Hawaii 1-1 162
T89 +14 Wake Forest 1-1 162
T92 -4 Vanderbilt 2-0 160
T92 +17 Virginia 2-0 160
94 +16 Army 2-0 159
95 -27 Texas Tech 1-1 158
T96 +22 Navy 2-0 156
T96 +9 Tulane 1-1 156
T98 +14 Eastern Michigan 1-1 153
T98 +0 Charlotte 0-2 153
100 +14 San Jose State 2-0 150
101 -7 UNT 2-0 149
T102 -3 James Madison 2-0 148
T102 -11 Stanford 1-1 148
104 +2 Marshall 1-1 146
105 +2 Troy 0-2 145
106 -32 NC State 1-1 141
107 +22 UL Monroe 2-0 140
108 -15 Georgia State 1-1 136
109 -18 Western Michigan 0-2 134
110 -11 Jacksonville State 0-2 133
111 +0 Air Force 1-1 132
T112 -36 Purdue 1-0 130
T112 +5 New Mexico State 1-1 130
114 -27 Wyoming 0-2 128
115 -32 Utah State 1-1 127
116 +7 UMass 0-2 126
117 +7 Tulsa 1-1 125
118 -19 Western Kentucky 1-1 124
119 -4 UAB 1-1 122
120 -4 Akron 0-2 116
121 -14 Colorado State 1-1 115
122 -10 New Mexico 0-2 114
123 -2 Central Michigan 1-1 109
T124 -2 UConn 1-1 106
T124 +1 San Diego State 1-1 106
126 -1 Southern Miss 1-1 101
127 -2 Buffalo 1-1 98
128 -9 Middle Tennessee 1-1 97
129 +1 Kent State 0-2 92
130 +1 UTEP 0-2 90
131 -3 Ball State 1-0 86
132 +1 Temple 0-2 81
133 +1 Kennesaw State 0-2 80
134 -2 Louisiana Tech 1-0 73
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So just checking, are we supposed to submit our ballots for week 3 in the link above? Because I did, but looking at the results it seems like it might still have week 2 ballots as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah, my general workflow is honestly sloppy af with this thing. But I typically just leave the poll up as the same link and just clear the submissions every week. I do all the calcs on the sheets doc anyway (cut and paste the weeks out to their own sheets each week) so it doesn't really impact the results. Unfortunately I'm only ok at remembering to do all of this lol. It should be all up to date now.

Edit: I'm also likely to split the results and vote posts up again, as I imagine the other 2 voters last week probably want their name in the pot for the gift card. And it may be unclear the I need some sort of fedi user verification.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Trends:

  • UGA is definitely our favorite so far, let's see if anyone can bridge that gap
  • FSU was a massive loser, even if they maybe should've lost even more
  • FSU is however, the only "state" school ranked higher than their non "state" sister school
  • USC actually lived up to some hype for once in the post Pete Carrol era
  • Massive 4 way tie there towards the back of the pack, I think that's the first time we've seen it?
  • OSU, SMU and Iowa all won, but didn't beat the snot out of their opponents enough to not slide.
  • Lots of "receiving votes" this week. Means we are far from unified on spots 20-25 especially
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

My ballot this week:

  1. Georgia
  2. Texas
  3. Ole Miss
  4. Ohio State
  5. Tennessee
  6. Louisville
  7. Miami (FL)
  8. Alabama
  9. Missouri
  10. Oregon
  11. Oklahoma
  12. USC
  13. Penn State
  14. Utah
  15. Kansas State
  16. Michigan
  17. LSU
  18. Oklahoma State
  19. UCF
  20. Vanderbilt
  21. Boston College
  22. South Carolina
  23. Kentucky
  24. Nebraska
  25. Clemson