this post was submitted on 03 Sep 2024

-31 points (14.0% liked)

Conservative

372 readers

78 users here now

A place to discuss pro-conservative stuff

Be excellent to each other. Civility, No Racism, No Bigotry, No Slurs, No calls to violences, No namecalling, All that good stuff, follow lemm.ee's rules, follow the rules of your instance, etc.
We are a Pro-Conservative forum. Posts must have a clear pro-conservative, or anti left-wing bias. We are interested in promoting conservatism and discussing things that might get ignored elsewhere. All sources are acceptable, however reputable sources with a reputation for factual reporting are preferred.
Dissent is allowed in the comments, but try to be constructive; if you do not agree, then provide a reason which is backed up by references or a reasonable alternative interpretation of the provided facts. That means the left wing is welcome to state their opinions, but please keep it in good faith.

A polite request, not a rule, if you feel the need to report a comment, please don't reply to it.

founded 1 year ago

MODERATORS

[email protected]

-31

Illegal immigrant arrested after stabbing of teen girl at Indiana baseball game: police (www.foxnews.com)

submitted 2 months ago by Amoxtli to c/[email protected]

18 comments fedilink hide all child comments

all 21 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

This is horrible.

Also, https://www.abc4.com/news/southern-utah/st-george-man-arrested-as-suspect-in-his-wifes-death/

Police found Niki A. Sampson, 47, dead inside the home. Police said that the circumstances around her death were suspicious and upon further investigation, her husband, 50 year old Eric L. Sampson, notorious American and social security card-carrying U.S. citizen, was identified as a suspect and arrested.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

where did the "notorious American and social security card-carrying U.S. citizen" part come from? It doesn't seem like a phrase that would be in an NBC article.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

See, I added that part as absurdist contrast to the sensational and terrifying news coverage of immigrants.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Your straw man omitts one critical point, illegal aliens can't commit crimes if they are not here to commit crimes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Irrelevant. The issue here is the flaw in your thinking: you have been conditioned to believe that every desperate person who crosses that border illegally is a murderer, a rapist, an arsonist, a thief, a drug dealer, etc. You have been conditioned to think this way by a constant stream of propaganda.

undocumented immigrants have substantially lower crime rates than native-born citizens and legal immigrants across a range of felony offenses. Relative to undocumented immigrants, US-born citizens are over 2 times more likely to be arrested for violent crimes, 2.5 times more likely to be arrested for drug crimes, and over 4 times more likely to be arrested for property crimes. https://www.pnas.org/doi/abs/10.1073/pnas.2014704117

If someone believes that a person who crosses the border without authorization is by definition a criminal and is subject to consequences, that would be understandable if they weren't also planning to vote a convicted felon into the Whitehouse.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Irrelevant. The issue here is the flaw in your thinking: you have been conditioned to believe that every desperate person who crosses that border illegally is a murderer, a rapist, an arsonist, a thief, a drug dealer, etc. You have been conditioned to think this way by a constant stream of propaganda.

It relivent, illegal alien crime can be prevented by not letting illegal aliens in the country. It doesn't even matter if the debunked stats are true those crimes could be stopped.

https://cis.org/Report/Misuse-Texas-Data-Understates-Illegal-Immigrant-Criminality

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/staggering-75-percent-of-all-ny-arrests-in-midtown-are-migrants-police-sources-estimate/ar-AA1pV5Hv

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/non-citizens-account-64-percent-all-federal-arrests-justice-department-n1045286

If someone believes that a person who crosses the border without authorization is by definition a criminal and is subject to consequences, that would be understandable if they weren’t also planning to vote a convicted felon into the Whitehouse.

You really should get your TDS looked at before it becomes more debilitating.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You really should get your TDS looked at before it becomes more debilitating

That's all you got? People so concerned with crime are voting for a criminal, and all you can say is "TDS"! That must be how you deal with your cognitive dissonance.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Be honest what's the longest you can go without thinking about Trump?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes let's be honest. Your concern for immigration is really just a cover for your racism, isn't it? Yeah I thought so.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

The old liberal playbook, anyone who disagrees is racists.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Nothing in the article states Sampson was a citizen.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Gosh it doesn't? But what if there were a series of news articles with headlines like "American rapes nun" or U.S. citizen stomps puppies to death" or "American-born killer shoots girlscout, steals cookies" and this goes on for years, and people post these headlines in political discussion forums even tho individually they don't seem to be about political issues?

Then you would think there was an attempt to plant the idea that Americans are mostly lawless violent criminals, wouldn't you?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

For some reason "immigrant assaults woman" is 'conservative' news, but "alabama pastor molests 10 kids" doesn't garner a mention. I wonder what that means, could it be that it's an anti-immigrant agenda and nothing to do with protecting innocent people?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The user you replied to is trying to draw a false equivalency by posting a different article. He must be upset that someone who was previously deported, and thereby committing a federal felony by returning, had his criminal history mentioned in a crime report.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

A swing and a miss. No, that's not why I'm upset.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I found it odd that they posted an unrelated article, lied about it, and then went on some illogical tangent.

It is concerning when illegal aliens commit crimes against people in this country. Our government should protect us from people who shouldn't be here. The crime would not have been committed if this person had not been here illegally.