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[–] 108 points 2 years ago (1 child)
  • [–] 36 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I mean, third time’s the charm……. Right? 😳

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  • [–] 39 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Eh. Germany weren't the colossal dickheads in WWI that they were in WWII. Frankly most of Europe had a part to play in sparking the first one.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Kaiser Wilhelm was:

    Expansionist and irredentist

    Fervently anti-democracy

    Rabidly anti-semitic

    Trying to secure overseas colonies to exploit for resources

    The Third Reich was the Second Reich without a noble class to fuck things up with inbreeding. It's hardly surprising, a culture can't change completely in the span of a couple decades.

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  • [–] 72 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Mom, can we get Nazis?

    No we have Nazis at home.

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  • [–] 58 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Our "Verfassungsschutz": "Watch out! They plan to overthrow the current system!!"

    AfD voter: "Yeah, but the migrants"

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  • [–] 49 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    I'd go even further. The AfD threatens the current (democratic) system. Most AfD voters vote for them for this exact reason. They want to "enact revenge" on a system they feel left behind by IMO.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    "democracy doesn't let me be racist enough, we should get rid of it"
    ~average AfD voter

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    "Them rich folks of the AfD keep telling me that democracy made me poor and jobless. They are also telling me that they'll bring back jobs, by removing all them immigrants. Guess I'll vote for them."

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm really worried that the Verfassungsschutz talks and talks about the dangers the AfD poses, but they seemingly won't actually do anything and I suspect by now it's too late to prohibit them.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah, it sucks. A party can't be forbidden in Germany if it's not "relevant enough"... But when they are relevant, it might be too late.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    And AFD won't "send migrants back" because that would remove their favorite Boogeyman. Expect don't symbolic tinkering and not that much more, otherwise they have to start all over again with another minority to blame. It won't improve these people's economic situation. EU exit and austerity is back on the menu with AFD.

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  • [–] 48 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    People in the comments attacking AfD voters as racists and rightly. However, no one wakes up one day and decide to be a racist from now on. There are reasons why these extremists gain political support and they draw it from a pool of people of which some wouldn't even consider voting for them a few years ago. This shift reflects a social sentiment that everyone seems to be ignoring.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    Fair point, I think we know it, just our politicians keep ignoring it. The elites backing moderate governments would rather see fascists on the throne, than to have a democratic, true leftist government.

    Socialism endangers capitalism, fascism doesn’t.

    The solution is definitely not ridicule and mocking, but it’s also not appeasing fascists. Anybody who wants to destroy democracy, has no place in a democracy. In the short term, we should ensure fascist don’t get to power by whatever means necessary, and in mid-/long term, we should enact social changes that decrease the support of these radicals.

    Tbh I’m not sure this is possible peacefully (or at all), and maybe another world war will happen - though not because of Germany, more likely China/Rusia, maybe US if things go bad.

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    [–] 43 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    So, no one bothers to learn lessons from history any more...? Hmmm.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Issue is, they just change a few bits around to fool the people that are uneducated about the subject. I'm from Hungary, and one history teacher of mine taught me that Nazis did things for the sake of being evil, one other said "it was a punishment for the Jews killing Jesus". Once you associate bigotry with being evil, any dumb rationale can make it look not evil in the eyes of these people.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    it was a punishment for the Jews killing Jesus

    This is peak logic. Glorify Jesus becasue "he died for our sins" but demonize Jews for killing him... Bitch, if they didn't kill him you lack key aspect of your religion!

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    It can't be as bad as it sounds, right?

    Right?

    Fuck.

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    [–] 23 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Here is the (non final) result for anyone to lazy to check themselves:

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    [–] 22 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Hicks exist in every country.

    Sometimes they drive fancy cars.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Jesus Christ, Germany, figure it out.

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    [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    Lets see how keen Germany is on stopping fascism in its borders again or if they’ll ooh and ahh as they wait for the state to talk about discussing doing something.

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