this post was submitted on 30 Aug 2024
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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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INFO

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Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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ORGANIZATIONS

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Great job neutralizing that violent threat. That was clearly the best way to handle that situation. There has never been a better demonstration of how to protect and serve. 🙄

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

Ah. Real bravery right here..

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

And they stand there over her like a bunch of fat Tweedle Dees and Dums after they knock her down.

Pathetic

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

You can tell the three right in front we're hoping they'd get to beat her up some more with those batons.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Just an FYI it's better to lift people from behind under the arm pits.

My nan got her shoulder dislocated when her neighbor tried to help her up like that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So ACAB as ever, but this feels staged as fuck. Like old lady, idly fumbling with phone and stuff, gets knocked down and needs 3 men to come and help her off the ground?

Looks like they had been trying to move the group along and she was like a child who didnt want to get out of the pool at adult break.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

It is fully staged, agreed.

Few people are more ACAB than I am and I can see this is bait

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Yeah, because it's definitely easy to get a dozen police officers to just agree to make your anti-cop video. /s

Even if she got knocked down on purpose, that still isn't what "staged" means.