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I thought data caps for home internet were a thing of the past…

I’ve somewhat recently moved back to a very rural area of the Midwest. Small town. No stop lights. Biggest businesses other than the bars are Casey’s, Subway, and Dollar General.

And we have one ISP (not counting DSL) — Mediacom. When we first signed up, I had to go with the second service tier. But not because of speeds, but so I could have a reasonable 1 TB/mo data cap.

Lucky me, they increased the cap to 1.5 TB. 🙄

I hope that in my lifetime I can see ISPs regulated as a public utility.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Where I live in Australia, 1 hour out of Sydney, I would pay that for 1/3 the data at 1/3 the speed. Went with starlink instead.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I was shocked when my friend from India told me that for 400 Mbps up and down, he pays only $14/month. Limit: 3.3 TB per month.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have almost the same experience. I live in a small town in the Midwest, and the only ISP that goes to my house is Comcast/Xfinity. There's a 1.2TB cap no matter what level you pay for, though they give you the option of paying an extra $30/month for unlimited. I'm really growing to appreciate our local ISP, which provides symmetrical FTTH, unlimited data, a static (or at least rarely changing) IP, and generally non-predatory business practices, all for a lower price than Xfinity. Unfortunately, my house is on the fringe of the town, so they don't reach all the way here and I'm stuck with Xfinity.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If it makes you feel better, I has a similar cap when I lived in Silicon Valley

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Same boat here, I have what seems to be a legacy plan now for a 1G/50M with 6 or maybe 8 TB (it changed during the plauge years and I don't recall if they dropped it back down) for about $150/month. The only other options around are wireless or a 80/10 dsl through century link that interestingly enough has no cap. Supposedly century link is working on fiber sometime that will give a dymetric uncapped option for about $70 though.

Meanwhile, in the town of Moticello less than 50 miles away they have two high end fiber nets because the city decided to build their own and the local ISP decided it better do so to in order to not be extinct, after of course trying to sue the city saying they can't do that.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

2000/2000 Mbit fiber without a cap for $95/mo. in Maine, US.

This does feel a bit surreal though as prior to this my options were 3/.5 Mbit DSL for $75/mo. (bonding wasn't an option, no plans by ISP to upgrade), then 25/10 Mbit fixed wireless for $95 /mo. from a local provider (which worked when it felt like it and then was undergoing "maintenance" for weeks at a time making it unusable), then paying Spectrum a $5500+ ransom to run Cable down my driveway and then ultimately pay $115/mo. for 300/20 Mbit. Spectrum didn't have a cap due to the Charter -> TWC acquisition consent decree but I'm sure it was coming after that expired.

When fiber came to town everything else suddenly got cheaper but screw them, they kept raising the rates and fees when there wasn't any meaningful competition. Fidium didn't even charge me an install fee and I'm not under a contract. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Rural area in Latvia, LTE home internet 100 megs down 30 up, unlimited, 19.99€

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I have 1gbps symmetrical for €17.95 in the Netherlands.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Italy - 35€/mo, 1Gbps down, 300Mbps up, unlimited. Goes down at least once a month though, openfiber sucks

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

I've lived In rural areas in the U.S. all my life. Internet is always atrocious because the only ones that provide services out those ways know that they have no competition.

Luckily, I've had a great company come in and now have fantastic internet after they set up the infrastructure, but I still think about those days I had to use Windstream.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (13 children)

100Mbps uncapped for £26 a month. Pretty happy with that.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I pay 150 a month for 20/10mbps (actual is more like 10/5) with a 1.5tb cap. I would stab a baby to get yours.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Same here, no data cap but upload speeds of 10Mbps is absolutely brutal.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Bud, I pay $60/mo for 30 down, 1.5 up 🙃

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (5 children)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Meanwhile I'm paying $150 for less than that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Not that you will read 300+comments, but cancel and go with starlink. They probably call you back and offer you an uncapped plan :D

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Holy fucking shit dude... Sorry for you but in a weird way I'm a bit relieved to see this being the case in the US as well. The village I grew up in (Germany) still has a price of ~50€ for speeds of 50-100MBit/s However, there is at least no data cap in that case. My 1000 Mbit/s contract was capped to 1TB/month as well until four years ago (40€/month). I really hope this improves for all of us soon!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I'm with the only uncapped service in my area, it's $90/mo for 10mb/s and it's unreliable as all fuck.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah Comcast has been doing it for a while.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Thats rough, i live in what the rural small town folks that live around us call a “that liberal shit hole” while they are here shopping and working. I have unlimited municipal Fiber internet that just got upgraded for free!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I don't think we've had data limits for wired internet since moving on from dial-up/ISDN. But I'm still waiting for unmetered mobile data. Here all the supposedly competing providers are advertising 100 GB as unlimited. I'd rather pay for a reasonable specific speed with no metering, than have a connection that is so fast it can use up its monthly quota in an hour.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

lmfao its 40usd for 50/20 in australia

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Lobbying captured local states' law (by ISP's) and so some places can petition to have their own internet at cities and have, but these laws sometimes prevent that. But we should still try to petition to get a city based internet. It's worth it.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I have to have Cox Business just so I don't have to pay $50 /mo extra for unlimited Internet. It's a scam.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Germany calling. Shot internet here. On my village (close to Ulm) telecom will give you a maximum 16mb dsl which in reality is around 8 down for 40€ a month.

Installed Starlink and get 150 to 250 down and 30 up for 65 a month.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Here in Sri Lanka I'm paying ~20 USD for FTTH 100 Mbps. Monthly bandwidth is limited to 155 GB lol.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Consider yourself lucky, I pay around 100 euros for a 100Mb wich does not even reach 40 in download at times. (Italy)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

In the Netherlands we complain a lot about gas prizes, costs of groceries. et cetera.

But regarding internet we have come a long way. Fiber is available to approximately 50% of the households currently (and they are expanding fast)

Mobile data is really seen as a commodity. 5G with unlimited data is €25/€30 a month (depending on the carrier). Although 5G in the Netherlands is not yet up to speed (3,5GHz will become available soon), the realistic speeds achieved are more then decent. (Benefit of having a crowded, flat country)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Let’s be real here, for a gas station Casey’s has damn good pizza.

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