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On lemmy.world I posted a comment on how liberals use 'tankie' as an invective to shut down dialogue and received tons of hateful replies. I tried to respond in a rational way to each. Someone's said 'get educated' I responded 'Im reading Norman Finkelstein's I'll burn that bridge when I get there' and tried to keep it civil.

They deleted every comment I made and banned me. Proving my point, they just want to shut down dialogue. Freedom of speech doesn't existing in those 'totalitarian' countries right? But in our 'enlightened' western countries we just delete you.

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[-] ShiningWing@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago

It's why it's really funny that there's a decent amount of libs trying to pretend that Lemmy (either .ml or as a whole) is this super "tankie" thing when they're really the opposite

Like, if the rest of the Lemmy universe was "tankie" we wouldn't need Lemmygrad in the first place

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 2 years ago

It's pretty funny that liberals see themselves as proponents of open debate and rational discourse, but in practice they start freaking out as soon as anybody challenges their dogmas.

[-] IntoDaLagoon@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Real "my girlfriend goes to another school" situation, except the girlfriend is their respect for other people

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 2 years ago
[-] Rasm635u@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago

As Hakim or Yugopnik (I can't remember exactly) said, "tankie" is the new "commie"

[-] citsuah@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Yugopnik I think from memory. He was saying how libs can't say "commie" because its such a dated word and nobody takes it seriously (except some conservatives who still say it unironically which is actually hilarious😂). It's too much associated with redscare era propaganda. Tankie doesn't carry this baggage but has exactly the same function.

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[-] lemat_87@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago

This is liberal mental space, full of "freedom of speech". Liberalism is a cancer which leads to right extremism. And social democracy leads to liberalism. If you exclude ML from discourse, you eliminate whole left wing point of view consequently.

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[-] SunsetFruitbat@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Sometimes it kind of of makes me feel really irritated in a way because like, a lot of these people who are so overly concerned over "tankies", don't have that energy directed at fascists or reactionaries? They seem more concerned over "tankies" than reactionaries or fascists who are in power in various places and are hurting people. Like they will make a post or whatever denouncing "tankies", but where is that towards fascists? or reactionaries? If anything all they do is help fascists and reactionaries whether they are aware of that or not.

[-] sovietsnake@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago

We should call liberals coupies because of all their coups.

[-] ledlecreeper27@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Call them boaties because NATO sent 19 warships to surround and blockade Lisbon in 1974 after Portugal overthrew fascism and started nationalizing industries and redistributing land.

[-] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago

Where can one read more about those events?

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[-] ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Go ahead liberals. Call me a tankie. See if I give one ten thousandth of a fuck. Literally such a low-tier insult. “Uhh its like… uh…you support this large cool looking machine that stopped Color Revolutions and was responsible for Liberating the Eastern Front during World War II” “Yea, I do😐” “😨”

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[-] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I’ve talked about this before, albeit the topic was about self‐identified anticommunists, but I am sorry to say that it applies to a lot of leftoid noobs as well. Anybody who poses obviously loaded questions like ‘why is it being a “lib” to say that governments who repress the human rights and civil liberties of minorities are not practicing leftism in good faith? the same governments who have horrifically and violently crushed workers rights movements?’ does not need to be dignified with a serious response. You can’t make these bipeds educate themselves no matter how good your evidence is; it simply isn’t a matter that’s within your hands.

Do something else: unionize, agitate for better working conditions, exercise, train with a weapon, do some volunteer work, contribute to volunteers (like Food Not Bombs), or engage with communists or communist sympathizers who are very clearly asking in good faith. Personally, I spend my most productive time studying modern history, and I’ve amassed a respectable répertoire of knowledge. I can confidently say that you’ll learn more about capitalism in decay from me than you’ll ever learn from any horseshoe theorist or dullards saying ‘red fash’ unjokingly.

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