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[–] [email protected] 116 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The only thing I would object to it the visibility of the fire hydrant.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I thought the same thing. But it does look like there’s a stone path leading to it. Still, perhaps a post with a sign would be a practical solution.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

Hopefully there is already a blue reflector on the road. Where I am they are used to mark hydrant locations for easy finding at night.

I imagine other areas could use a different color reflector though.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I’m a bit surprised at how far into the parcel the hydrant is placed but they also practically don’t exist around here, is it common to have them basically on your lawn?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Around here, if they are not directly in the sidewalk, (or there is no sidewalk) they still have a cement apron around them and are near the curb.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Cannot believe that someone would prefer 2022 photo instead of 2023...

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I worked for a municipal government. Some houses have 'nature reserves' near them, wild areas of mostly indigenous vegetation.

Resident: "This needs to be cleared. Snakes live in there "

Me: "Good. That's the point."

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 years ago

True nature in cities is not only for humans, but also for the animals, bugs and all the little creatures.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Almost every single snakebite in a city is caused by escaped pets. And the majority of snakes are not venemous. If people want to be worried about animals, they should be worried about the untrained and poorly controlled dogs they see every day, not the hypothetical snakes that won't even leave the shrubbery.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

condolences

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

Be safe ❤️

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Tbf "we live in Australia" is also a great reply to anyone complaining about snakes.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Unless this was in Australia or some place with dangerous snakes, I don't really see why people should be THAT afraid of them, if anything you should be happy they're gonna keep the rats at bay.

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Oh.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

I'm going to let you in on a secret, the snake danger thing might be overblown.

Good thing about humans is that we keep animals in an endangered state wherever we settle.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not as aussie but I found out that we have rattlesnakes in my area by seeing a facebook post of one getting caught 2 blocks from me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

more people get bitten by rattlesnakes during the three days of the Sweetwater Rattlesnake Roundup than during the rest of the year everywhere else in the world – snakes really just want to be left alone

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Aussie snakes might be very venomous, but in general they'll only bite if they're provoked. I live near a nature reserve full of snakes and it's not really an issue for most people. Just leave them alone and they'll leave you alone.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago

The 2023 pic is beautiful and looks really nice. But if we're comparing in good faith, it's also pretty obvious that the 2022 photo was taken in early spring when nothing is growing.

There's surely a lot more plant life on the bottom anyway, but it would not look that vibrant if it was all dormant right after winter like the top pic.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

TBF, the 2022 photo looks like it was taken in the winter (no leaves on trees, empty/dead garden beds), and a 2023 winter pic would look about the same but with more empty/brown garden instead of grass.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Once established it's probably significantly less water and maintenance too. Just trimming and weeding every quarter instead of mowing, fertilising and/or watering every few weeks.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

My yard is becoming 2023 and my neighbor's yard is 2022, and he complains about my yard every opportunity he has, but he never complained when it was only grass

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago (1 children)

home owners association: "I'm calling the police!"

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Doesn't even need to be an HOA, plenty of municipalities don't accept anything but lawn in front of the house.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Or just a neighbor with no life that studies ordinances.

My parents have a neighbor that waked around the block with a tape measure, measuring how far from sidewalk people had trees or shrubs. Township ordinance said it had to be 6 feet away.

She then called the city and reported everyone in violation. The neighbor never met most of those people. She was just bored with no life.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Wish we could pass a law against nuisance tattle tails. Have to prove you were somehow affected by the issue in order to report it otherwise you get fined for being excessively nosey and ignored.

I'm sure there are all sorts of problems with this idea, but a guy can dream.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 years ago (6 children)

No way the bottom one doesn't need any watering? No?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If it's local, it's designed to survive on its own. I'm in North Texas and this summer has been hell on everyone's lawns and gardens. The exception for me is my garden with trailing lantana. It is completely unaffected and growing like mad while everything else is drying up and dying.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Also in North Texas and also have thriving lantana while nearly everything else is dried up. I'm kinda at my wits end.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 years ago

The goal is to have local plant which can survive in local climates. Then you don’t have to water as much or ever.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Big reason why grass lawns require so much constant watering is because they have pretty bad water retention. Having a thick layer of foliage protects the soil from direct sunlight which prevents it from drying out too quickly. Much of that water you see people spraying onto their lawns is actually just gonna evaporate back into the air before the grass even has a chance to use it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Turf grasses are also very shallow rooted.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The real question is do you have to weed or do other maintenance? I'm looking for a zero maintenance yard not just a zero watering

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm sure no HOA would ever fight you for this. /s

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

And that's why when buying a house, avoid ones with a HOA

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

I think HOAs are luckily rare in Canada.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

a whole tree in one year? that seems misleading...

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago

I think the tree was already there. It just didn't have any leaves.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

There's two trees, the big one is more in frame in the second image

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

While working on my graduation thesis at the natural sciences faculty, this is exactly what we studied: the usage of autochthon plants as a replacement for garden varieties in an urban context

Edit: grammar correction

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The comments here really are interesting.

"2023 is going to attract snakes or bugs" ah yeah that's how nature works.

2022 is when you work against nature.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I immediately thought about insects. Is it not how it works?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

If you do it right yup, and your yard becomes a hotspot bees and other pollinators

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

After attracting pollinators the last few years, I finally attracted crickets, grasshoppers, and spiders in my little urban sanctuary this year. I considered it a compliment from nature

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

It's a legit question. Are these yards more likely to result in additional home repairs due to destructive pests? I'm significantly less pro nature when that nature has destroyed my home by chewing wires, eating the wood from my support structure or causing leaks and water damage. I've dealt with rodents causing thousands of dollars in damage before and it completely sucks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

looks good. wonder about the total cost (garden + burned down house).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I want to do something similar to our front yard, which is currently mostly grass as well. Also some patches for butterflies and bees will be needed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

simple start is adding native clover and dandelion to the grass (and obviously not spraying herbicides or pesticides)

  • clover adds nitrogen (and was a traditional part of lawns up until WWII)
  • dandelions attract pollinators and every part of dandelions are edible
  • don’t trim/mow shorter than 6" (15cm) – triggers grass grazing response rather than damage response
  • once that’s established, then you can move onto planning and design
    • native wildflowers, bunching grasses, erosion control, vegetable garden, fruit trees
    • for a garden area, the turf can be flipped over for a basic sheet mulch starter
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