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[–] 181 points 3 years ago (7 children)
  • [–] 106 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    its really funny to me how they unironically did that during the apology video today with the screwdriver

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  • [–] 76 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    So so so so tonedeaf. Video where Linus is stepping down? Sure, throw it in as a laugh, he's the butt of the joke, it was funny. Where you're being accused of serious wrongdoing in public? Not so funny. Read the room, folks

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  • [–] 175 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (5 children)

    “After this brutal belittling, gaslighting, and sexual harassment, you’re gonna have a lot of baggage. And the best way to carry it? The LTT backpack!”

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    [–] 122 points 3 years ago (35 children)

    From what Madison said it sounds like it goes far too deep for this to change much. I hope things get better (since it's unlikely LTT just up and disappears immediately), but from what we've seen this culture of dismissal goes right to the top.

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  • [–] 83 points 3 years ago (22 children)

    I honestly believe that Linus is a well intentioned dumbass. He likes his people and believes that everyone can just get along and that nobody would harass another employee seriously. He knows that the mistakes are just honest mistakes which is why he gets so defensive, take the whole "trust me bro" thing... I think it never occurred to him to fuck his customers over which is why he didnt handle it well.

    He doesnt believe his employees need a union because I dont know about you but if I owned a company Id hope that my people felt looked after well enough that they didnt feel like they needed one either.

    But that kind of attitude just doesnt work with so damn many people, he should have hired a full time HR manager YEARS ago, as well as the company lawyer on staff. He SHOULD NOT be doing the WAN show, or if he does it should be on a 5 minute tape delay with someone from legal and hr present.

    The reason why so much bullshit corporate structure exists is to largely protect the company from itself.

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    The whole "Trust me bro" thing comes from when they released their backpacks. They had issues with some of the zippers and people wanted to know what the warranty was. Linus said they didnt explicitly have one but that he would look after anyone with issues. When people got a bit rightly pissed about this, he got a bit defensive. "Trust me bro" sprung up as a meme out of that whole saga.

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  • [–] 26 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    If you've seen enough wan show you can get a pretty good idea of his personality. He spouts so many controversial takes without thinking through the consequences, so he's doing a terrible job if he's actually an evil mastermind. Most people are well intentioned and Linus is no different.

    He's also naïve, arrogant, and defensive, as we've seen lately.

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  • [–] 88 points 3 years ago (27 children)

    It is good they are taking public steps to change their corporate culture, but it is clear they had a top down culture of not taking harassment seriously. Hate to share a reddit link, but this video: https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/15t1mzn/mandatory_meeting_the_after_madisons_departure/ purports to be from when Madison left. The language here is not the language of a corporate culture that takes harassment seriously. Especially since James didn't get immediately corrected.

    If they want to win back the viewers (and likely sponsors) they are losing or have lost because of all of this toxicity, they are going to have to continue to publicly show they are committed to improving not only their culture to move away from a harassment friendly, grindset focused content farm, to one worth our time (and sponsor dollars).

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  • [–] 35 points 3 years ago (26 children)

    I guess I’m kinda naive. “You gonna dance on that table, or just stand on it?” doesn’t sound like a sex joke to me, but that’s what people are calling it.

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  • [–] 82 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (7 children)

    Maybe it's being in corporate america for a while, but holy shit that made my head literally swivel back to the video after kinda paying attention. That is definitely not something you say in corporate america, let alone literally listening to a speech about harassment.

    You never even get close to anything sexual in corporate america. Just steer clear. I don't care if it's funny, or you think it's funny, or if you think everyone else will think it's funny, you don't. You avoid the topic completely. Make the joke later at home or with your friends but not in the workplace.

    Even if the joke is only partially offensive, it's offensive. (If you aren't sure if it is or not - you don't make the joke. You're instincts are trying to tell you it's not the right place) You don't do that in the office, and to do that seconds after the meeting it shows how fucking terrible it is there. I'll be honest, I was taking Madison's allegations with a grain of salt, but that just solidified to me what the culture is like. If they don't have HR nipping that shit in the bud, what else are they letting fly

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  • [–] 23 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    I agree. I was caught off guard because it didn’t show up on my radar at all. It’s not like I thought “eh, it’s only a little bit racy”. I just missed the sex implications completely.

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  • [–] 28 points 3 years ago

    Yeah, I think the connection between being on a raised platform and dancing is stripping. Making this a horribly tone deaf, if not intentionally undermining, joke.

    … I took a second to consult ChatGPT…

    Other connections seem to be all related to a performance of some type. I very much doubt this joke was not about stripping.

    That’s actually kind of fucking disgusting behavior. Like I’ve said elsewhere, they make stupid throwaway sexual jokes in so many videos, it’s easy to imagine it’s just the tip of the iceberg.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 years ago* (2 children)

    for sure, and yeah you probably wouldn't make that joke then, but the person who did clearly knew what they were saying and still decided to. Freaking read the room man. (them, not you)

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  • [–] 30 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I just can't help but think that if I had made that sort of comment in that sort of meeting, every boss or office I've worked for would have immediately taken corrective action, either publicly calling me into a separate meeting or by advising how such comments aren't acceptable and noting how it violates policy.

    The fact that it was just ignored is so much more indicative of the culture than I think just about anything else in the video.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 years ago

    Exactly, he should have called it out, right there. Yeah embarrassing for the person, but they should be embarrassed.

    That, right there actually is what we're stopping. That sort of joke was okay in the past, even up to this meeting, but no longer going forward. That's the last one, and this is this entire group's one and only warning

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  • [–] 49 points 3 years ago (11 children)

    I think its more the implication that Linus looked like stripper on the table. But I appreciate that could be a stretch. I'm more concerned by a) instructing people to go directly to the person harassing them with no managerial oversight first, b) implying harassment complaints are drama, c) suggesting that its not their job to resolve harassment complaints by down playing them as "interpersonal problems" and d) intentionally or unintentionally suggesting that if you have a problem you are going against the fun environment, which instantly puts a harassment victim in an us vs them environment.

    I'm coming at this from a lawyer perspective, as I am a lawyer (albeit not an employment or harassment lawyer) and I've witnessed first hand how harassment and discriminated employees are not respected by management. I've seen how that impacts people's mental health and how, especially for younger women, it creates a toxic cycle where it can be extremely difficult to leave because you've internalized the harassing and discriminatory experience to the point of thinking "well, who else will hire me? I can't just get another job."

    I realize if you have not experienced that or witnessed that, its hard to understand how a toxic environment can lead to that mindset. So hearing someone joking around in an emergency all company meeting may not immediately seem problematic. But when the subject of the meeting is harassment, and a high ranking manager just jokes around like its not a big deal, and that joke is tacitly approved of by the executive level (where there isn't immediate correction), it all strikes me as a corporate culture that doesn't respect the seriousness of harassment.

    I'm also biased as my office literally just had our annual harassment training yesterday.

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  • [–] 31 points 3 years ago (9 children)

    Right?! Have you talked to them first? "Hey, harasser, you know you keep grabbing my ass and I don't like that, could you not?" Literally every harasser will laugh in your face and say something like "You love it" to trivialize it. Any HR person knows that that's now how that works.

    Did you catch "Our 3rd party HR provider"? So they outsourced HR. How am I not even a tiny bit surprised?

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  • [–] 19 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Did you catch “Our 3rd party HR provider”? So they outsourced HR. How am I not even a tiny bit surprised?

    Why is that an issue? Would you rather they investigate themselves and find no wrongdoing?

    It's not uncommon for HR to be an outside entity, to maintain a semblance of neutrality. Otherwise, it's much much easier for internal HR teams to sweep things under the rug.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Oh I'm all for 3rd party oversight, but what it sounds like is this is one of those outsourced HR teams from overseas that are more or less paperwork pushers. They're commonly used to avoid having to pay for actual HR that, you know, actually does human relations. These are separate from 3rd party oversights, which usually are separate from a full HR team.

    They usually provide super super duper helpful 1-800 numbers where you, as an employee, can call and complain about something, feel better, gets logged in a report, and nothing then is done. I did work for consulting companies that used these and shockingly, they are terrible.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    If I Google "table dancing" (in a fresh new browser I just installed on incognito mode with a VPN and everything + I never watch porn or search this stuff or anything, so it's not just customizing it to be sexual for me - I encourage you to try this yourself) the first result in the Wikipedia article about it, which reads:

    A table dance, or bartop dance, is a dance performed at (or on) a table or bar, as opposed to on a stage. It may be an erotic dance performed by a sex worker or it may be done as a leisure activity.

    As you keep scrolling down, the next thing it shows is images of erotic dancers table dancing, the next thing is a list of nearby strip clubs, the next result is the dictionary.com entry for table dancing which reads:

    a form of entertainment in which naked or scantily dressed women dance erotically at the tables of individual members of the audience, who must remain seated

    The next result is videos of erotic dancers table dancing. And so on, and so on.

    So, yeah, there's definitely, without a doubt, a strong sexual/erotic connotation/connection to the term and the joke they made.

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  • [–] 77 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Gonna take one fucking amazing d-brand wrap to make this shit look good.

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  • [–] 72 points 3 years ago* (6 children)

    Mfers talking like they were out in Europe totally unaware of what the US branch had been doing all this time, like what! Also what’s with the third person, who else is there with you calling the shots?

    It was you. You were there and you knew from day one. Lots of allegations were directed at you, specifically. What is happening.

    🤦‍♂️

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    [–] 60 points 3 years ago (13 children)

    Oh look your pr and legal team wrote some words that no one gives a fuck about

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  • [–] 38 points 3 years ago (10 children)

    That sanitized corpspeak just sticks out like a sore thumb, right? It takes deliberate, continuous effort not to start zoning out as soon as I hear it.

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  • [–] 58 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    Corporate speak sucks, but it's 100x better than Linus digging an ever deeper hole for himself at this time. Dude and his wife just need to take a backseat for a while and let pros fix their shit

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  • [–] 55 points 3 years ago

    Corpo-speak doesn’t mean shit. Actions do.

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  • [–] 30 points 3 years ago*

    Any chance on some context on this for someone who doesn't follow tech closely enough? I know who Linus is, and what LTT is, and I've seen a lot of stuff these past few days about the community being angry at them for all sorts of stuff, but who is Madison? And what did they allege?

    Edit: Never mind, only had to scroll two posts in my feed to find the answer. For others out of the loop: ex LTT employee Madison Reeve alleges toxic work environment and sexual harassment.

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  • [–] 24 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    If they had made a statement like this proactively years ago, I maybe would believe it. But now after the years of rumored toxic workplace conditions this just seems like an attempt to calm their fans lol

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    [–] 21 points 3 years ago

    Plot twist: the "quick, decisive action" will be to tell them to shut the fuck up or get fired.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 years ago* (4 children)

    Sounds pretty empty to me! We already know how he really feels. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3ogQ7sakAAhnCB?format=png&name=large

    It feels like this year is the beginning of a reckoning for a lot of bullshit. Why give our time and money to bloated corporations when they pull the same shit again and again?

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    [–] 16 points 3 years ago

    You know, it's wild that poorly reviewing a GPU cooler can lead to stuff like this coming out.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 years ago

    On one hand the corpo speak annoys me bit on the other would we really want another Linus statment?

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