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App or community for "Is this AI?" (lemmy.world)

submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I'm not great at determining when something is AI. Is there an app or community for asking if an image is real or AI?

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Devil's advocate: Why would we want to give AI image generators free hueristics to help them make themselves less detectable?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Anything we can provide is just a drop in the ocean of data they already have. Plus, this was how image generation worked before we got diffusion models (see "generative adversarial networks") and they never reached the level of image quality that diffusion models did.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Huh? GANs, even ones like thispersondoesnotexist are way better than SDXL, they're just hyper-narrow in focus usually, whereas SD can do just about anything

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

If only it were that simple to train something into an AI.

[+] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I don’t think a community for it is an unreasonable idea - at least for now, many AI images are easily identifiable by defects / lack of reasoning in the image. Though there isn’t a good computer program that can do this, I agree.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Human intuition has much more capabilities than a computer program, so I believe community should be made in light of that

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

I second this. Using AI to detect AI seems ironic more than anything. Some of my friend's traditional drawings were guessed as most likely being AI by these detectors... The false positive rate is substantial.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (4 children)

How can i learn to be better at seeing it? I guess search to find a guide?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Look really closely at a couple things: hands and any broken lines that should be straight.

Hands hopefully is obvious. AI has trouble drawing fingers. For the broken lines, picture a wall or a swimming pool or something that you know is a straight line, but is behind the subject. If the lines don't line up, that's a good clue.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Look at thin lines (hair, eyelashes, powerlines). In AI pictures, some lines just melt away and are not continuous. It's a dead giveaway

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Look closely at the little things in places where you expect to see “things” and see if they are actually the things you expect them to be. With AI they often aren’t actually things at all. Also patterns may look right until you examine them closely.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Collective human wisdom would be useful. Some humans will pick up nuances and details other humans may have missed. Sort of complementing each other, in a way.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why would someone downvote this?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

I'm not sure. But regardless, I'm thinking of an "Is it AI?" community or (sorry Lemmy users) subreddit, similar to r/whatisthisthing or r/amitheasshole. I don't have the time and energy so hopefully someone takes my idea and puts them into fruition

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

@[email protected] draw for me several people pointing at a computer screen and discussing whether an image is faked

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