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I was thinking of getting a wifi card like that, but can't seem to find any.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 months ago

Use libre boot website's info for reference. The Athero cars were the only open source option. They are from the aughties. That is your only option. It is the same for hardware - libre boot stuff with a Core Duo era processor, nothing newer is trusted hardware.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago

For something relatively fast, I suggest you stick to Intel chipsets, and avoid realtek like the plague. As others mentioned, you can go with Atheros, but your speed will certainly suffer, as well as probably breaking the ability to put the computer to sleep with S3.

I understand you would rather go with 100% FOSS, but this carries trade-offs.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Even if so, it would likely still have proprietary blobs, just embedded into a ROM or flash chip on the card. Personally, I'd rather have firmware loaded at runtime over hard-coded, at least then the blob is able to be reverse engineered possibly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Intel has entered the chat

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I got an Atheros card, which is fine for WiFi on Debian 12 and was cheap to buy. Drivers were in the Debian foss repo. Bluetooth is not working on it though. Interestingly, the Bluetooth did work under PureOS but I never figured out why.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Interestingly, the Bluetooth did work under PureOS but I never figured out why.

The bluetooth probably needs a non-free firmware blob, as most of them do.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Yeah maybe. I would expect PureOS to come with less non-free components though, being that it's endorsed by the FSF. I was quite surprised that BT was not working after switching to Debian.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You could always get an Ethernet-connected AP. This will allow you to use the latest WiFi but not compromise your OS.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

What os is the ap running?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's the beautiful thing - it doesn't matter.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

some people would prefer to only use FOSS software and hardware, though

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Good luck with that. What switch are you going to run? What access point what gateway for your ISP.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

pretty much any open source hardware can do all of those things... not sure what you're trying to say

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Yeah but to the degree that they need the firmware running on each chip in the device to be a FOSS chip firmware?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

If you are going that route just use vfio

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Intel ax210 worked good for me so far, but i don't know if there are software blobs since everything worked from the get go without needing to install anything