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[–] 272 points 2 years ago (27 children)
  • [–] 140 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Whoever added the citations to this is doing extremely important work. It needs to be finished though.

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    [–] 250 points 2 years ago (56 children)

    Jfc Americans. How did any one not know about project 2025?

    The rest of the world is watching you elect your new supreme leader eternal and you guys are just sleep walking it through.

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  • [–] 117 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    "Yeah, but the not fascist was bad at speaking, so I'm just gonna elect the fascist person by not voting."

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago

    Most people in all countries are extremely ignorant and disinterested about politics. Do not expect more of American voters than you'd expect of your own country's voters.

    A great example of that is Brexit in my own country. People voted for lots of ridiculous reasons both for and against, and in the end we got a crazy close but negative outcome. Just under 52% voted in favour of brexit, but I guarantee much less than half that number truly understood the issues and knew what they were voting for. It was a vote that should never have happened - it was all an arrogant ploy by David Cameron to increase control over his own party and instead it has torn the whole country apart.

    People complain about the news media but its just a product of the lazy and disinterested electorate. Mass media doesn't cater to fact and debate, it caters to shock value to try and get people watching.

    That's why biden has to go - most people don't care that trump is a lunatic or biden has had successes. Not enough will care about Project 25 even though it will damage many of trumps own voters. All they care about is that biden looks old and sounds like he's dementing because that's all that's cutting through.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (18 children)

    american politeness requires that we not talk about politics in public and that encourages americans to ignore everything until it impacts them; broaching the subject will label you a malcontent.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago (14 children)

    american politeness requires that we not talk about politics

    Is that really a thing?

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    People who talk about politics and religion at work tend to get hated at best and fired at worst.

    People who talk about politics and religion on social media risk getting lectures from relatives and losing friends.

    So yeah, people do not talk about politics and religion in America a lot of the time.

    Honestly, the only reason my mother-in-law and I have maintained a really good relationship over the decades is because we just don't talk about religion or politics. My wife and I are pretty much on the opposite side of the map from her on both. So we just don't talk about it rather than become enemies. Maybe that's not the right way to go about things, but it's saved a lot of stress where we don't need it.

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    [–] 120 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

    Trump World sounds like the shittiest theme park. Even worse than that Willy Wonka Experience.

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  • [–] 117 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    What the fuck, people are JUST NOW hearing about this??

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    [–] 108 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    Please, weaponize this! I know the last place you want to go is a Fox News comment section or FB posts but these people need to see how they will be personally affected too.

    Weaponize the cuts to social security and medicare as much as you can. Yes, lots of conservatives are a lot cause. But I'm not asking you to reach them on the moral issues, I'm asking to get them rightfully scared of losing social security and medicare/medicaid. Make it personal.

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    [–] 95 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    "trump world" sounds like the most disappointing and predatory theme park ever.

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    [–] 92 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    my job has me on i40 in Tennessee a good bit and there was a huge mega porn store off one of the exits

    it has been shut down and reopened as a Mega MAGA Store

    trump beat titties official the country is fucked

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    [–] 73 points 2 years ago (25 children)

    Project 2025 has been around for years. How have people not noticed it?

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  • [–] 86 points 2 years ago (20 children)

    Because republican voters don’t pay attention to what their party is doing. They only know that trans bad, brown bad, gay bad

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    Or many republican voters do know about project 2025 and they like it.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    There’s some of those, sure, but this shit like banning contraceptives, banning no fault divorce, attacking Medicare and social security-these are universally unpopular policies. That’s why trump is trying to pretend his campaign didn’t literally write this shit.

    The conversations I’ve had in the Deep South with Republicans always boil down to: they have no idea.

    I have found that the best way to argue with republicans is to tell them directly what they’re actually voting for, because they don’t know. They’re either dumb as shit, or they’re greedy and think democrats will raise taxes.

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    [–] 48 points 2 years ago

    If he is elected, they won’t keep trying to pretend that they are against these positions.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    BS. This is exactly what Rump world wants. They love consolidation of power, Christian nationalism, and taking power away from non-white men. They are worried that centrist and moderate red voters will hear about it.

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    [–] 31 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Sadly my Right Wing friends insist it's "Just the Heritage Foundation" and that the "REAL" GOP already rejects it

    So naive...

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    No conservative voter thinks poorly of Project 2025. Every conservative in the U.S. is either fine with it or excited about it.

    A conservative who pretends it's not their platform is lying, either to placate you or to save face.

    Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation, even when those words come from friends or family.

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    [–] 27 points 2 years ago

    They were proud of it up until not long ago, trusting to the ignorance of the "average American" about policy details. Then the Supreme Court ruling came.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago

    My family is pretty politically aware and my brother only just started talking about it, so it will take a bit for word to spread.

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