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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

....And then they mostly couldn't be bothered to actually get college degrees despite how cheap they were, yet still ended up with good careers capable of supporting entire households with only one person working anyway.

Despite his cynicism, even Bernie manages to understate the problem here!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Just throwing out there, this was one generation out of however many to the dawn of time that was able to do this. And they did it on the backs of the hundreds of thousands of people that fought, starved and died to get unions established. For the vast majority of history, if you could work you worked man, woman & child because if you didn't your family starved. Then people fought for generations to get unions established and they finally did it and one single generation got the advantages of it before the next generation decided they didn't need no stinking unions as they were working white collar jobs and here we are. We're not standing together so we're falling together.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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Bernie Sanders, @BernieSanders

The Boomer generation needed just 306 hours of minimum wage work to pay for four years of public college. Millennials need 4,459.

The economy today is rigged against working people and young people. This is what we are going to change.


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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Hillary stole Bernie's nomination and robbed Americans of his presidency

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Hillary didn't rob him of it; the Democratic Party robbed him of it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because of America's dogshit election system, she won the popular vote.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd give anything to go back in time and see how that election goes differently with an Approval Vote.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Honestly, a candidate like Trump was not an "if" but a "when".

Even if the Dems had won that election, history has shown they they would not have made any real.changes. They would have done nothing to try and prevent something like the Trump Presidency from happening. They wouldnt have tried to fix the rigged gerrymandered districts, they wouldn't have pushed for voting reform, they wouldn't have tried to call put the insane rhetoric being put out by right wing propaganda machines, and they wouldn't have instilled better checks and balances on the presidency that relied on more than the assumtions of common decency, respect, and tradition.

Nah, they would have rested on their laurels for electing the first female president, and be caught with their pants down when the GOP successfully harnessed the resentment of angry white men for being "under the rule" of a black muslim socialist for eight years, and a satanic pedophile child eating woman for 4.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

And then Biden did it 4 years later.

See the pattern? Combined with all the "left" side of democrats support for US imperialism.

Bernie and people like him ain't gonna change shit, not any more in the future that they did in a past decades. It's time to radicalise way beyond him and the lukewarm electoral socialdemocracy, the only thing that can change something for the better, and did in the past, is the organised working class.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It was the Democratic establishment and the corporate media that stole it. The biggest thing they fear is a candidate that puts the American people over corporate interests.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I wanted to believe this during the 2016 party primary like I needed to breathe. Hell, I STILL want to believe it. But the reality is that the American people robbed us of his presidency.

2016 was one of the first elections where Gen X, Gen Z, and Millennials collectively outvoted the boomers and the silent generation, by the slimmest of margins. It goes without saying how much the older generation drinks from of the neo-liberalism kool-aid. A self-professing socialist was always going to be a hard sell.

As far as the 2016 Democratic primary goes, Bernie got 1820 pledged (elected) and 45 unpledged (super/unelected) delegates. To win by one delegate, he would have needed to get 518 additional super delegates to overcome Hillary's pledged delegate lead over him. A win from him would have caused an outrage, since the unelected delegates would have overridden the elected (read: will) of the Democratic primary voters.

The most important thing American voters can do is to continue to demonstrably show how neo-liberal socio-economic politics is marching us to generational ruin to every voter you know, and then vote appropriately in every local, state, and federal election.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can we keep the timestamp in when cropping a post from another website?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

7:29 AM · Apr 24, 2019 for the record.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I guess my dads not A typical boomer, he openly emits that times were much easier for him. As this quote from Bernie implies, after taking to account inflation and everything around living your life, we work much harder and get much less than our parents or grandparents did.

Regarding getting off the gold standard, sure that might have some effect, and I'm not a finance major so I don't know all the details, but in the end, I think capitalists would have done whatever they needed to in order to suppress how much people make in compared to their productivity. Getting off of a standard was just the technique used at the time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry, Bernie's full of crap. He's deliberately twisting facts to misinform. He's using today's highest minimum wage to calculate paying tuition at levels of 50 years ago, and trying to imply that people only needed to work 306 hours THEN to pay for college tuition THEN. That's just not true.

When I was working during high school / college, minimum wage was $1.50 / hr. That works out to $459 for 4 years of college education. Tuition at public institutions in the mid '70's was $1210 / year nces.ed.gov That's $4840 for 4 years at a time when my comfortably middle-class father was earning ~ $25 K / year. It was cheaper, but not by as much as Bernie claims.

Also, public colleges have always been subsidized by the state. You'd also need to look at the level of subsidy between then and now and whether we're choosing to subsidize less.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Try researching your masters degree in a Library using Microfiche. First reply here on Lemmy, just wanted to say "hello"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes something needs to change and I feel you are seeing the real panic of the right as more and more younger people can now vote and are just pissed as everything they are doing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People have been saying this since the 60s. Lots of young people are still conservative and many areas are still solidly red. I don't see a massive blue wave that garners a supermajority happening anytime soon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually, it looks like this time it might be true.

Source

Next is speculation on my part, but I imagine people are turning conservative more based on their wealth than their age. We saw a correlation between age and conservative sentiment because people tended to gather wealth as they got older.

But that link has been progressively eroded, so people are no longer switching. Essentially the conservatives are killing the golden goose in their incessant pursuit of consolidating wealth.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, I have seen that point and also a paper discussing it, but I am a bit skeptical. It could potentially just delayed... which transitions well into your speculative point:

Next is speculation on my part, but I imagine people are turning conservative more based on their wealth than their age. We saw a correlation between age and conservative sentiment because people tended to gather wealth as they got older.

That is a very good point because inequality is killing wealth accumulation. It's a very good working hypothesis imo.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bernie sanders screaming into the wind yet again.

Bernie i love ya but nobody is gonna do the things you say.

They are way too reasonable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn’t that kind of defeatist?

I don’t really have a horse in this race since I am not from the US.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It's more cynicism than defeatism. People from the United States have pushed for these kinds of common sense reforms for our entire lives and we still have nothing to show for it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the only solution to this problem is subsidies.

Subsidies knowledge works well around the world.

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