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[–] [email protected] 97 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Definitely mixed feelings.

I really hate the idea of giving him any platform to try to turn the trial into a reality shit show. The worst thing that you can do with an attention seeking child is to give them attention.

The flip side is transparency. The more transparency, the less opportunity for outright lies about the process. No amount of truth and reality will matter to the kool-aid chuggers, but there are still some with one foot still in reality.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (6 children)

If it makes you feel any better, as a fan of Knowledge Fight, I followed the Alex Jones Sandy Hook defamation trial in Texas pretty closely. Alex did his best to turn the trial into a circus, throwing out deep state conspiracies, complaining about the process and his first amendment rights on the stand, and otherwise showboating. The judge was on top of it and shut it all down, and a lot of that came back to bite him in the ass. It didn't help that Alex kept doing his show while the trial was ongoing and freshly defaimed the plaintiffs and alluded to the jury as being brainwashed liberals.

I'd imagine the same thing happens here. Whether trying to make a circus out of the proceedings helps Trump in the presidential race, I don't know. But it's not going to do him any favors with the judge and jury.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

I saw some of the trial. That judge just radiated the look some parent of a toddler has at MacDonalds. The "I am not going to yell and I am not going to bend. I am the adult, this is the toddler. And that is the way it is going to be"

You will keep your shoes on.

45 seconds later

You will keep your shoes on

45 seconds later

You will keep your shoes on

45 seconds later

You will keep your shoes on or we are going home.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It is nothing to do with transparency. Courtrooms are open to the public in most cases and open the press in all cases. Written transcripts are widely available. It is nothing to do with being able to tell what's happening inside it's the ability of the media to be able to dice and cut little clips for their segments little blurbs little gachas little reaction shots with no context that they can feed to their viewers without any sense of journalistic integrity. Cameras in a courtroom are only about sensationalist media. They have always and always will uproot the actual movement of Justice. We've seen it before we'll see it again here, but probably worse since it's him.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah the OJ trial was a disaster.

On the other hand OJ had better lawyers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hopefully any kind of jury isn't shown on camera otherwise this is doxxing.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Way too early for a jury, but when cameras are in courtrooms they’re not allowed to do things like show the jury, or show witnesses or evidence that the judge rules must remain confidential. Any violation and the photographer could be held in contempt.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

No amount of transparency will prevent his outright lies. It's going to be a total shit show.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Nothing is going to stop the outright lies

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It's tough because the last few high profile cases to allow cameras in the courtroom have if anything shown that too much transparency can be a bad thing, especially when you make a spectacle out of a process that anyone who isn't a trial attorney isn't going to properly understand, but will certainly draw their own conclusions regardless

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's a bitch when around anyone with any real authority. I'm for it. I want his followers to see how weak, pitiful, and guilty he really is.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They will never see that no matter what though. Their feeble minds cannot handle being slightly wrong. Let alone collosally so.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Spin it for them. It's not that they were wrong, but rather Trump lied to them and he made them look bad.

They would be out for blood

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

No, they will dance seductively outside his prison window, waving confederate flags etc.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Since RICO is likely part of the George indictment, we may get to see Trump/Giuliani/Powell/etc on the stand. That'll be amazing.

I just hope Nebraska is growing enough corn for the future popcorn needs.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I just hope Nebraska is growing enough corn for the future popcorn needs.

Doubt.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Worker productivity will plummet.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Glad I can listen to the audio while at work at least.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Just like when we were all watching the insurrection instead of working on jan 6th

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Me: sorry can't come into work today, I gotta watch Trump get roasted in Georgia.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Oh dear, fair warning to all. I’ve been edging my justice boner since Trump announced his candidacy back in the olden days. I have been waiting for Trump to go to prison for the final release. If I watch any part of this trial there’s a chance the the Eastern Coast of the USA, Western Coast, Southern Coast, along with Mexico and the Northern Coast, to include Canada will be hit with a tsunami of justice semen.

You have all been warned.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago

When inside thoughts become outside words

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Username fits

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

This patriot has the bluest balls in the country. I do hope my basement doesn't flood, the forecast for my area sounds pretty dire.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trump gets his circus but will he be the main act or a sideshow?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Does anyone know why they don't allow cameras in federal courtrooms? I'm curious if there's a good reason for it, or if it's one of these weird laws from a time before cameras.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

I believe cameras aren't allowed in federal courtrooms because it prevents jurors from being identified and threatened/blackmailed.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m going to assume it’s because of the shitshow that was the OJ trial.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This will only help his campaign, unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

It's hard to say. Honestly, I think the GOP is in a pinch. They want the turnout that trump affords them but they also want him out of the way as clean as possible. When MAGA people come to the realization that the GOP is trying the bait and switch, shit will really get spicy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Exactly this. This was a lesson learned in 1923 that we seem to have forgotten a hundred years later.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ohh, this is gonna be great lmao. Any guesses on how Donny is gonna spin his propaganda in the courtroom?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lol

Yeah. I wonder "if" fire is actually hot or "if" the ocean is wet.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Can confirm, fire hot, ocean wet, trump guilty

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

🍿🍿🍿

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

It’s such a common everyday occurrence now, may as well.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I can see him quiet and pouting on camera like the little man-baby he was with Putin. And taking the 5th on everything.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kinda weird it doesn't really say why. Like in practice maybe it doesn't matter but I'm curious if this is a "in this state we always allow cameras and we're not making an exception" ruling or a "this is in the public interest" ruling.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

McBurney apparently leans towards broadcasting everything.

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