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I switched to Floorp two months ago since it has native vertical tabs (which I greatly prefer over Tree Style Tabs since its a little buggy) and it has been running fine, though earlier this week I got a bug where I set a hotkey and removing it didn't clear it (it still triggered), even after restarts. I tried switching to the tab to the left with CMD OPT Left arrow, and accidentally set a hotkey for toggle the synced tabs sidebar.

I use that hotkey all the time and it basically ruined my workflow, it takes much longer to switch tabs with the mouse. I just found a workaround where I run my Floorp profile in Floorp Daylight (the beta version of Floorp, equivalent to Firefox Beta) remove the hotkey there, then run regular Floorp again.

While I'm happy with Floorp's exclusive featrues, I really wish they were in upstream Firefox because this is a big downside of using a fork, it has its own bugs. And I have to wait for changes from newer Firefox versions to get merged.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

For what it's worth, Mozilla did release a Firefox nightly test build a couple of months ago which included a proof of concept vertical tabs feature: https://www.ghacks.net/2024/04/02/mozilla-released-a-firefox-nightly-test-build-with-vertical-tabs/

Still not clear whether they're gonna implement it properly though

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

Well the feature development is certainly progressing - here is the tracking bug for it.

You can nowadays just test it in normal nightly without special build - it's extremely incomplete, but you can test it if you wish. It's tied to revorked sidebar which you need to enable in about:config.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

It's on the roadmap, though I imagine doing it properly is going to take a while - the test build was very rough, just to verify whether it was even realistic.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I've also used Fennec for Android, which I found indistinguishable from FF

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Wait, is that not an official version?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

I think not exactly - it appears to be a fork, or more correctly a patched version of the official Android version.

https://gitlab.com/relan/fennecbuild

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

There are significantly fewer Firefox-based browsers than there are Chromium-based ones, unfortunately. Out of the ones we do have:

Floorp has much like Vivaldi gone the proprietary source-available route, so you couldn't pay me to use it.

Pale Moon is easily the most involved of the Firefox forks, being a fork of a much older version of Firefox, but I wouldn't generally recommend it for security reasons. It does have its uses, though. Waterfox Classic is in a somewhat similar boat. Security-wise Pale Moon is definitely the better of the two because it uses its own fork of Gecko which is maintained about as well as you could reasonably expect given the manpower available to the project. Waterfox Classic meanwhile has kinda just been left to rot since most development is going to regular Waterfox nowadays, so it's not maintained nearly as well as Pale Moon and it's just been collecting CVEs. But for those same reasons if all you want is the ability to use legacy XUL extensions, then Waterfox Classic is gonna have better compatibility since it hasn't been modified nearly as heavily as Pale Moon.

LibreWolf is probably the most popular Firefox fork nowadays, but it isn't much more than a Firefox equivalent to Ungoogled Chromium. Waterfox goes a little further, but not by much. Both can be good choices, but personally I haven't had much reason to switch away from upstream Firefox. LibreWolf is tempting, but I can already disable pretty much all of the Firefox BS from about:config, so I don't see the point. It's pretty much just better defaults.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I use Mull on Android and so far I'm satisfied with it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Mull is really great, +1

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

To add, Mull is on FDroid, which means you don't have to rely on Google Play or the Aurora Store!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

I like Waterfox. I don't care about vertical or tree style tabs, but I like the extra UI options and the reasonable defaults.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

My main browser is LibreWolf. I occasionally the Mullvad Browser or Tor. Mull is my favorite on mobile.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

I did a test drive of Floorp as well and I ran into a similar issue. I couldn't get it working with touch input, although FF managed to smooth it out years ago. The fixes for Firefox didn't seem to work for Floorp.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

It's been many, many years at this point. Which one was it that went 64-bit before Firefox proper did (Waterfox maybe)? Pretty sure I used that for a short while at the time, but memory is hazy now.

I occasionally toy with the idea of switching to SeaMonkey because I was a Mozilla Mail & News user for a long time way back when, but I switched to separate FF and Thunderbird when that was discontinued and never had the need to switch "back" to the all-in-one.