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[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It wasn't able to destroy Cuba, Vietnam, Laos, or the DPRK despite bombing and/or coup attempts.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But it destroyed Yugoslavia and communist movements in the West. In the USA the communist movement is a no -threat to capital in its current state.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It's easy to shoot at people than be bullet proof...

America can assassinate but its defenses are not necessarily good...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

America can assassinate but its defenses are not necessarily good…

Castro would probably argue that first point too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wdym? How does his 600-assassination survival streak relate to this?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago

It’s propped up by imperialism and as its power abroad collapses its stability does too.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago

It destroys itself. It entire economy is build uppon imperialism, this only works for as long as it can enforce its rule. More and more of the world is again able to enforce its natonal self determination, while smart enough to work with others in similar positions. This leads to the US position becoming ever more unstable. Eventually something gives in the US, then it will get really ugly.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago

Any capitalist system will eventually succumb to it's own contradictions. The US is presently amidst their own collapse as the pressure of infinite growth meets the critical limits of finite systems.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

To some degree I think it is inevitable, a lot of their influence is predicated on being the sole superpower and their imperialism. We can see that right now with the advent of other multpolar power blocs.

I think things can be done to accelerate that decline, many of which the US themselves are engaged in, but I don't think it will be a sudden revolution right now. I think we will continue to see a gradual decline in US influence as other actors get stronger and stronger while the US pretends everything is fine. I think by the time we see actual revolution in the US the USA as an empire won't really exist anymore.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Adding to this, there is no guarantee that revolution will be socialist either. It is more likely that the US balkanizes and descends into civil war between multiple factions that will occupy and go to war over different territories.

There may be socialist projects of various tendencies that arise and form from whatever entities take the US's place. However, I don't believe the US as it currently exists on its mainland would likely ever become socialist. Of course, anything's possible.

When the rest of the world eventually embraces a socialist future, they will look upon the US the same way we look at the pathetic dwindling monarchies still existing in our current age of global capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

likely that the US balkanizes and descends into civil war between multiple factions that will occupy and go to war over different territories

That might even be the best realistic outcome for such a stupid and vicious culture; letting them bomb themselves for a while at least creates a reprieve for the rest of the world.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Its gonna be like the fall of the USSR, except it will somehow be worse

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What do you mean? What worse?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Fall of the ussr was one of the fastest declines in human living standards recorded in history.

In the u.s it will be worse

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

With missiles