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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

There's a lot of obvious big-oil funded propaganda against electric cars being posted on Lemmy....

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Utter tosh.

The Telegraph (who funded this study) have a huge list of anti-EV articles, nearly all of which are technically incorrect and often self-contradictory. They clearly have an agenda and it's likely funded by the oil industry.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not entirely untrue. Electric vehicles tend to be heavier than petrol or diesel vehicles, and heavier vehicles cause more wear to road surfaces than lighter ones.

That isn't to say electric vehicles are bad idea because of that though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

But still fractionally as heavy as lorries, which /do/ cause most of the potholes. But the article is designed to trigger our base feelings of anger about paying for a road surface that's often in poor condition.

The car park argument is pretty silly too. Older multi-stories have greater problems from cars being wider, longer and taller than what they were designed for. But again, with the news of the multistorey car park collapsing in New York not that long ago, it's triggering fear, uncertainty and doubt amongst the reader.

Objectively, it's a really good example of how to write a manipulative 'news' story that preys on human emotion. That doesn't make it /true/ though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Damage to road surfaces increases by 2^4^ with weight. Link

A 2 tonne vehicle will do 16x as much damage as a 1 tonne.

EVs tend to be heavier, but for example, a Nissan Leaf weighs 1580KG, a Ford Puma weighs 1280KG and a a chelsea tractor weighs 2770KG.

So a Leaf vs the best selling car in the UK (Puma) is close to 2x the damage.
But a Range Rover vs the Puma is getting on for 20x the damage.

This article does seem to be anti-EV. And I hope that the new regulations that come in are based on weight, not just being a BEV.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Can't recall the figures off the top of my head, but even the BMW 3-Series (G20) is about as heavy as equivalent Tesla's. Of course you'll find lighter Japanese vehicles with smaller engines, but the article does seem to ignore how heavy ICE vehicles can get and how light BEV's can be...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like how twice is in large font because they think you’re stupid. They know people don’t read articles, just headlines because it’s just too boring a story unless it’s part of a sustained drip feed of nonsense stories like car parks collapsing or cobalt killing everyone’s first born

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Anyone could think this is the oil companies paying to discredit EV's.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It’s a daily mail website, their farts are responsible for global warming

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then why did you post it?!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

To start, and have people engage in a discussion.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh no! They'll actually have to build roads to a proper standard now!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The research was done by the Asphalt Industry Alliance (https://www.asphaltuk.org) who complain that there is a 1.30bn shortfall in the carriageway budget.

They have a point - potholes are worse than they’ve ever been - but one has to wonder if they would bump up the numbers to try and get more funding 🤔