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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nah, this will be used against good people (just like all laws). The GOAT Eugene Debs was able to run from prison, let Trump. I doubt he will win with his whole embrace of taking away women's rights.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Wishful thinking.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well ain't this some clickbait shit. No shit, author is stating the obvious. What matters is if anyone that matters does anything about it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No jury verdict is required to determine whether a candidate who seeks to run for the presidency on a primary or general election ballot is: a natural born citizen, who is 35 years of age, and fourteen years a resident of the United States. Likewise, no jury verdict or act of Congress is required to keep a Secretary of States and their subordinates from printing ballots with the name "Donald J. Trump" on them.

Of course there is no jury verdict that determines a candidate meets the birth, age, and residential requirements of the United states, unless the candidate doesn't potentially meet those requirements.

Of fact is that Congress passed legislation to ensure and clarify that John McCain (who was born at the U.S. Naval Base in Panama) met those requirements, or the fact that "Birthers" was a thing in regards to Barack Obama...Trump being one of those conspiratorial asshats.

Whereas the the birth, age, and residential requirements are somewhat easily verifiable by IRS documents, and a birth certificate when challenged (which is a thing), disqualification via insurrection is something that has to be legally determined in a court of law with a guilty verdict of a jury. Period. Just because a candidate is charged with insurrection does not mean they are guilty of insurrection. Due process is a necessary element of determining innocence or guilt.

I do not like Trump, and by all means I'd like to see him thrown off the ballot in all 50 states. But this article is utter trash once it hits this paragraph.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@Madison_rogue

As I mentioned elsewhere, if any one or group of the 70+ federal charges he is currently facing meets the legal definition of Insurrection, then the requirement of the 14th amendment is met and he becomes immediately ineligible.

This does deviate from the norm, and that is intentional; because sedition in a political crime that threatens the existence of the nation. However, it is quite explicit, unlike many other amendments people would as soon ignore. Once the definition is met, it's party over.