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2024: The Year Linux Dethrones Windows on the Desktop – Are You Ready? (lemmy.ca)

submitted 5 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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NTSync coming in Kernel 6.11 for better Wine/Proton game performance and porting.
Wine-Wayland last 4/5 parts left to be merged before end of 2024
Wayland HDR/Game color protocol will be finished before end of 2024
Nvidia 555/560 will be out for a perfect no stutter Nvidia performance
KDE/Gnome reaching stability and usability with NO FKN ADS
VR being usable
More Wine development and more Games being ported
Better LibreOffice/Word compatibility
Windows 10 coming to EOL
Improved Linux simplicity and support
Web-native apps (Including Msft Office and Adobe)
.Net cross platform (in VSCode or Jetbrains Rider)

What else am I missing?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Unless Linux is the default, it will never become significant in the mainstream. It is however thanks to improvements like these that OEMs can consider selling it pre-installed

Also I would to remind some here that the reason Linux can exist on the desktop today is because it is a very good way for Microsoft to get less antitrust fines. Otherwise the bootloaders would all be locked and there would be one or two devices that are unlocked.

This is also my main concern about the Qualcomm elite x: everybody is saying "hurray it will support Linux" but the actual cpu support was never really the issue. It's the boot process and device trees that is problematic and I don't see this being talked about enough. If it does not adhere to a standard device detection process like with Acpi via Arm System Ready we are cooked for arm laptops.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

THE YEAR OF LINUX IN THE DESKTOP!

It’s like Lucy and the football.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I wonder if atomic desktops would change manufacturers' mind. We have to admit LTSes like from Ubuntu failed to make pre-installed Linux popular.

Silverblue contains too much cutting-edge software to be pre-installed as of now, but if Red Hat decides to provide a mechanism for manufacturers to better stabilize Silverblue I'd take it seriously. Automatic updates with cleanly split customization mechanisms, and the source is available. If the PC is just supposed to do web browsing with couple peripherals like a fucking printer (don't ask me why), it might be preferable over Windows. And my relatives can't configure Windows on their own anyway.

At the same time I don't know why Chromebook isn't more popular cus it's probably good enough for 90% of use cases. (The rest is basically elderly people who want 10GB photos in their 2TB SSDs, only to lose them "accidentally". Maybe Chromebook can do that, too, but I just can't recommend it due to corner cases I'm not aware of. I mean, I don't want to test Chromebooks for my relatives.)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Because here are many people who did a switch to linux. How did you handle using a cad software like solidworks or fusion360 after switching to linux?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Any source regarding "VR being usable" on linux? The current development seems pretty stale and it doesn't seem like that's gonna change anytime soon, especially if you own any Oculus headsets that predates the quest. I do hope the rumors of valve making the deckard are true, but those are just rumors and should be taken with a grain of salt.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I mean... it just works? Since the Index is out it's just been working basically. Not sure what else would be needed. Sure being able to use Quest headsets would be nice but unless Meta decides to open up, I don't think it would happen. IMHO that's a vendor problem, not the OS lacking support, sadly.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (3 children)

It's definitely a vendor problem rather than an os problem. But it's still a problem that the biggest manufacturer in the VR space has no support for Linux, hence i find it a bit farfetched to say VR is usable on Linux when the most popular hardware is not being supported by it's vendor.

Though there are community efforts like Monado that looks pretty promising!

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I think it's going to take a Microsoft catastrophe, something that disables machines for at least a few days. I'm thinking maybe a buggy windows update.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Or a forced update to windows 11 on machine that doesn't support it. That would break the windows install for good. Either they will find a way to install windows again or take it to somebody who installs windows on it again. Maybe maybe they'll find out about Linux.

Anti Commercial-AI license

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Nvidia 555/560 will be out for a perfect no stutter Nvidia performance

God I really hope that'll be true.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

The one thing that would drive my parents over the edge is ads in Windows. They already use Firefox and Libreoffice.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Given the nature of fediverse, this specific category of people might indeed throw away Windows for their private machines.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

lol

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Been seriously thinking of switching to linux for my desktop. I mostly use it for games. Today I was looking at mods for Mass Effect, and the mod manager says in all caps - LINUX IS NOT SUPPORTED :(

There's probably going to be a lot of that sort of annoyance for years.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Linux is about on-par with windows xp/7 as it stands, and it has been for a while. The reason people haven't switched is OEM and software support.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Better LibreOffice/Word compatibility

Not on the MS side for sure, they've always made sure they don't follow their own spec so they can more easily vendor-lock. Typical EEE from the company that coined it.

Windows 10 coming to EOL

That, per se, no, both XP and 7 kept existing for years, but 11 around the corner with ads and recall... that may steer some people away. Edit: as will inflated minimum system requirements at every release.

Web-native apps (Including Msft Office and Adobe)

Those are OS-agnostic and a way to keep using MS apps. Office is one of the hardest to let go (because of aforementioned reasons), especially in a corporate environment - which, most likely, is the bulk of MS customers in terms of revenue.

.Net cross platform (in VSCode or Jetbrains Rider)

Until they change something. EEE, remember?

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