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📢A SINGLE, INACTIVE Moderator of r/Starbucks Overrides the Decision Made by the MAJORITY of ACTIVE Moderators to Make the Subreddit Private! (with proof) (media.kbin.social)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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📢EDIT: a_knife just removed ALL OTHER MODS!

Original starbucks post by accused inactive mod a_knife

Post about what ACTUALLY happened

Proof of only active mods agreeing to go private

Proof that a_knife doesn't even MOD the sub they made the unilateral decision to reopen

Proof of a_knife removing a mod

Funny thing is, Reddit will likely boot the 3 of them, and make a_knife top mod, which is DIRECTLY AGAINST their claims to remove any mods making unilateral decisions, because of course, it only applies if that unilateral decision is to go private. Spread the word

#reddit #boycottreddit #protest

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, finally, time to take my rightful position as the top moderator of a... coffee chain subreddit.

Such a small amount of power to go to someone's head lol

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

The Starbucks sub has been at the forefront of protests. They even made the news a few months ago for being a major player in starting a Starbucks union! This was a very bad place for admins to start their takeover if that's what's going on.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The mod likely didn't come back, but reddit just used his account...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

What would be the point of that? Reddit admins at the end of the day can just remove mods as they please they wouldn't need to go through someone else's account to do anything they could just install puppets or even directly open the subreddit back up.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Because nobody can actually see what's happening behind the curtain this way, and admins don't catch holy hell from it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Because they know kicking mods is going to be more bad press. So they're trying every way they can do not directly force subs to open. They've also started other bullshit though, like restoring deleted comments. I purged my account and had to repurge it today.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

What would be the point of that?

The thin veneer of deniability that it's not Admin themselves acting unilaterally to sabotage protest actions.

Reddit admins at the end of the day can just remove mods as they please they wouldn't need to go through someone else's account to do anything they could just install puppets or even directly open the subreddit back up.

Sure, they can. But they're also trying to posture like they "wouldn't" do that. Reddit is wanting to present themselves to users and to the press as if they're being noble and reasonable and definitely support the right of protestors to protest, they want the optics of being a platform that supports autonomy for their communities and members in that way.

If they're openly going around interfering and telling everyone upset to pound sand, they're buying more terrible press.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Less bad Press.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would u/spez manually edit the database to change a comment by a poster? Seems ridiculous, petty, and unnecessary and yet we know it happened.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I still can’t get past why they’d allow anyone to even have this power. People responsible for moderating content should be able to delete comments and replace with a comment from the mod explaining why it was deleted, sure, that kind of stuff is fine for the specific people who need that access to do their job.

But giving the CEO (whose job presumably does not entail any individual-comment moderation duties) the ability to edit users’ individual comments to make it look like they wrote something else, without anything indicating someone at Reddit edited it, is insane. Did Condé Nast not implement any basic, common sense rules when they took over, or did it just never occur to them that anyone at the level of CEO would actually do something like this?

Can you imagine being asked to invest in a social media company that allowed its upper management to stealth edit users’ content without notice? It just sounds so unpredictable and potentially dangerous. What if u/spez gets fired and either he or one of his buddies who still works there decides to edit content in a way that undermines the reliability and credibility of major subs like r/science or r/worldnews? Can spez submit new posts or comments from any user’s account? If so, what would stop him or any other disgruntled employee from making crazy posts from verified celebrity accounts (including scientists, politicians, etc.) that have participated in IaMAs in the past or otherwise used accounts that were verified by moderators?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And why exactly a_knife isn't removed by top mod for that?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Because reddit wants the protest to stop and they will ONLY support mods who will comply/want to stop it. As I said in my post

"Funny thing is, Reddit will likely boot the 3 of them, and make a_knife top mod, which is DIRECTLY AGAINST their claims to remove any mods making unilateral decisions, because of course, it only applies if that unilateral decision is to go private. Spread the word"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I believe that person was the top mod, they were just inactive

[–] HobbitFoot 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So what you're saying is that r/Starbucks effectively has no mods?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

One person that was an inactive mod took over and removed all the mods that were taking care of the subreddit previously. So pretty much yes.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We could easily ruin that subreddit by posting garbage there LOL

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

This is the answer.

You want to mod all by yourself...? Ok

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Quite frankly, y’all moderators are dumb as dirt if you let this happen. It’s obvious that this would happen (and will continue to happen) and it’s been obvious since the 48 blackout was announced. The top moderator of each participating subreddit should have removed all the other mods (even just temporarily) before they shut things down — to ensure no one could pull this move. And then even if Reddit did force the reopening, there’d be no one there to moderate it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Except that's not how that works. Reddit mods are tiered. If the top mod is idle - happens all the time - nobody can remove them, and they can come back at any point and do whatever with impunity.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or, they should have just purged the subreddits outright at the very start of the blackout before deleting the subreddit 1 week later. That would require them stepping down from their power, though, so they'd never do anything like that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reddit would simple reinstate it, bring back the posts, they're already brining back peoples comments and posts who deleted them

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any proof of this? I deleted my 17 years of activity and want it gone forever.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I had seen a few mentions of it, so I went to check mine. All of them were back, so I re-deleted them. Thankfully in my 6-7 years there I was not a prolific poster.

I'm going to continue to check them until June 30, then delete the account.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That was then, this is now. We can't change the past, we can't change the 48 hour business, all we can do is continue to fight back. This isn't helpful.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I thought about this, I was 100% surprised that mods didn't plan for it as soon as Spez said he would do it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What a shit show.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Outrageous

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

a_knife is a powermod sitting on 35+ subs and squatting. He just removed all the other moderators as of 10mins ago.I'm sure reddit will rectify this immediately. /sarcasm

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

FOR REAL? if this is true i will edit my post and add it.
edit: its true

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