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I get the general gist, like email different instances can communicate with each other but beyond that I'm lost.

I'm sorry if this has been asked 1,000 times lol

Edit: Thanks for the answers this makes more sense now :)

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The fediverse is less like Twitter and more like email. You sign up for email through a provider, like Gmail or Outlook, and they have control over your access to the other users and pay the costs of running your hardware, the same way you sign up with a particular domain on Lemmy or Mastodon. Like email, you have an inbox that receives messages, and communities are like email groups you join and send messages to. And, like email, it's based on standards that everyone has agreed on through a group called the w3 consortium.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

So each instance within the fediverse can communicate with each other, but how do things like the feeds work? Since there's no algorithm is everything from Lemmy.world only going to show up on the popular feed (if I'm on that instance) or can other things like lemmy.ee or whatever also show up?

And can I comment on posts from a different instance or does that vary per instance?

Sorry, last one. I noticed there are things like music streaming and video sharing instances within the fediverse, so could Lemmy theoretically allow content from those instances to be cross-posted here?

Basically to me this feels like a super modular super media platform that has tons of parts that can plop in and out of the system as needed.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You've got it mostly right. But this part is wrong:

is everything from Lemmy.world only going to show up on the popular feed (if I’m on that instance) or can other things like lemmy.ee or whatever also show up?

(assuming you're on desktop browser) If you want to browse only lemmy.world communities, click on "local" at the top:

"Subscribed" is all communities you specifically subscribed to (on any instance in the lemmyverse) and "All" is everything on lemmy.world AND all communities anyone on lemmy.world is subscribed to.

(fwiw, my account is on a different instance, startrek.website, but I subscribed to this community, so I saw your post in my "subscribed" feed).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it possible to see every community, from every instance, in all?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not exactly, because instances don't sync communities nobody is subscribed to. That said, if you're on a large instance like .world with tons of users, it's likely you'll see pretty much anything that could be considered worth seeing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Oook, that explains why my .world acct, and this one are so vastly different. I pretty much just see news and tech from this instance (and porn, obviously)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So each instance within the fediverse can communicate with each other, but how do things like the feeds work? Since there’s no algorithm is everything from Lemmy.world only going to show up on the popular feed (if I’m on that instance) or can other things like lemmy.ee or whatever also show up?

There is an algorithm and they're adjusting it to try and keep it interesting currently. It depends on whether the instance had contacted the other instance (through a search) or not as to whether they show up on the front page. Also, each instance owner says what to seed their front page with, that's why lemmy.world probably looks different than a niche instance. Someone just explained this to me.

And can I comment on posts from a different instance or does that vary per instance?

It varies between lemmy vs mastodon vs kbin, etc. Each one reads and expresses their info differently.

Sorry, last one. I noticed there are things like music streaming and video sharing instances within the fediverse, so could Lemmy theoretically allow content from those instances to be cross-posted here?

Yes but I think there are people who have to develop it. Someone more knowledgeable has to answer this one.

Basically to me this feels like a super modular super media platform that has tons of parts that can plop in and out of the system as needed.

I think you're right but basically it's all in the beginning stages, volunteers coding it, and they're still putting out fires from the reddit migration. It will take a bit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

how do things like the feeds work?

So what actually happens under the hood is when one instance communicates first time with another instance it builds some local cache of that remote instance. Then, when you open "All", you get everything from your local instance + things cached/requested from other instances. Admins can defederate an instance, in which case you would not see anything from it.

Since there's no algorithm is everything from Lemmy.world only going to show up on the popular feed (if I'm on that instance) or can other things like lemmy.ee or whatever also show up?

Everything federated will show up.

And can I comment on posts from a different instance or does that vary per instance?

If federated, you can both see and post both posts and comments on any instance from your home one.

could Lemmy theoretically allow content from those instances to be cross-posted here?

It could. More than that, Mastodon users currently can both subscribe to Lemmy instances and post/comment. It looks kinda weird since they mention post author/community or whomever they answer to in a comment, since they see it as if it looked like Twitter.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

It's a bunch of different websites that talk to each other.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

It's like if Facebook, Reddit, and Twitter all had the capacity to import content from each other. Then add in that most of the Fediverse's "facebook, twitter, and reddit"s aren't run by centralized institutions. You can sign up for an account with any of them, but the administration of the one your account is on gets to decide which other sites content it wants to import. If you don't like the way the admins are deciding on content in one, you can again start your own or just hop to another one. The Lemmy instances are forum like in nature similar to reddit, Mastodon instances are like twitter.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

The Fediverse is like if you could post on Twitter with your Facebook account or you could post an image on Instagram from your Twitter account.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Normally a social media site like reddit is whole owned by one company. Now imagine if anyone could just down load the program twitter and run it on their computer. That's decentralized. Now if you link your twitter program to my twitter program so uses can browse both sited that is federated.