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Elon has responded to the criticism and is increasing the limits to a whopping:

Verified accounts: 8000 posts/day
Unverified accounts: 800 posts/day
New unverified accounts: 400 posts/day
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Elon is helping people to move towards Mastedon and Lemmy.

Thanks Elon.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Between him and Spez, they've done a great job. πŸ˜‚

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He is spez’ idol. So while Reddit’s circles the drain and value decreases, they’ll will no doubt kill old.reddit on August 1st or something dumb, followed by a posting limit next year. 🀣

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Spez didn't borrow billions of dollars he has to pay back with interest though so he won't need to fire almost all his engineers.

He did however send all the most talented developers working under the platform to his biggest competitor so that wasn't smart.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Third party app devs?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nothing like telling someone they can’t use your product. I can only imagine what the advertisers are thinking.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My understanding is that there's very few left?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

And most of them are scams.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who reads more than 800 posts every day? I only ever get on twitter for juice drama every few months

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Every tweet you scroll past counts as a read tweet. That probably cuts down the number you can actually read by quite a lot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

At this point if you still use twitter you are a moron.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Man, these big tech companies are really imploding lately, huh? Wonder what's next.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Now, this is ridiculous, of course. However, you shouldn't be reading more than 600 tweets a day. I mean, I don't think I've read 600 tweets in my whole LIFE!!

Anyways, mastodon.world.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's not just reading. Any tweet that loads as you scroll past it on your feed or in replies to a tweet counts towards the limit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m not a twitter user but my understanding is that any replies to a tweet also apply towards the limit. So scrolling a popular tweet with hundreds of replies could drain your entire tweet limit in a matter of minutes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can confirm. I scroll past blue checks when I read comments and I had run out my post limit in under 20 minutes today.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Wild when you think about it... Twitter is supported by ads. The more you are on Twitter the more ads you theoretically will see, making the adspace more valuable. Additionally, the more trouble users experience the less they want to use/interact with the service. Isn't such a small and arbitrary cap sort of kneecapping themselves?

I'm assuming the Twitter servers are on figurative fire and this is the only way they can deal short term, because I have a hard time seeing the benefit for them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How true is the LLM data scraping threat?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Meta has shown that getting huge amounts of training data can lead to great results with a model that's much simpler than what openAI uses and it looks like they are taking a more open approach to LLMs because of that. Twitter has shitloads of possible training data, but it's Twitter so that data isn't great.

Elon is known to be afraid of AGIs becoming hostile, so that explains the decision.

I don't think it'll slow down AI development too much. There are new Llama-based models coming out every month that are better than the previous ones.

Reddit is a much better source of data and if they don't want to lose SEO, their data can still be gathered by scraping even after the API changes take effect.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I had to look this up, couldn't believe it. I've been pretty indifferent to Musk and Twitter...cause I've been always indifferent to Twitter, but this is crazy. As an example, my city's police and bus services and others all use Twitter to send updates out. And I'm sure it's the same for most places. And now they've essentially lost the ability to mass communicate with people, because they need to be able to reach everyone not just those with an account.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem is with your city's public servants. Relying on something like Twitter was a huge mistake.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Until recently it was a great way to reach people in a way you can't really do with any other platform.

But this day and age breaking TV broadcast doesn't work for anyone under the age of 55 or so

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Relying on a single service was a huge mistake. You can always diversify.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, that's easy to say. But name another free, publicly available, instant mass message delivery system they could also use?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Telegram, RSS, Email....

Take your pick

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why'd you get downvoted when those are good alternatives?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

All require the audience to be signed up. Twitter allowed users to broadcast. But yes, they are certainly functional alternatives.