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The landed gentry are only in charge until the king comes to town and chops off a few heads. At least that seems to be the case at Reddit, where CEO Steve Huffman pretended his complaints about current moderators — who were protesting his decision to effectively cut off API access to tons of useful…

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At the end of the day, Reddit is just a message board. The absolute hubris to think that one could seriously go public with a message board website... It's baffling.

Honestly, Reddit missed the ship to IPO. They should have done it a decade ago if at all.

Without mods, Reddit will become overrun with bots, rendering the precious data Reddit so desparately tries to monetize practically useless.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I mod a small/mid size sub that is still blacked out. Should I leave it private or just let it get overrun with spam?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shift the community to lemmy and write a pinned post on reddit about the change.

Request members to delete their reddit post.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That would have been a lot easier before the API change. Not sure if that's an easy task anymore (pegging old content)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You don't owe reddit anything.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sell promoted posts directly, admins have made it abundantly clear they're in it for money over community, get your cheddar too.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I’m a mod over on r/NoahGetTheBoat and I haven’t even opened reddit more than a couple times since Apollo died.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

WE made the content. The community. No doubt the majority of level-headed folk would have accepted ad requirements in 3rd party apps. Hosting isn't free, something needs to be monetized.

But that's not what it's about. It's about locking down content from the new wave of AI models and charging for it. Charging for content we created freely to be shared.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ads? No, I would not accept ads. What I would have accepted was a subscription payment. Hell, I went so far as to purchase Apollo lifetime ultimate.

I am more than willing to support things I use. I am not willing to deal with ads though. Especially when they sneak in like they are posts, and take up entire scroll widths.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don’t get how people put up with that either. My wife said that we were being over dramatic about the 3rd Party Apps protests, but will agree that the ads are annoying. Hopefully she’ll convert over here before to long and get a taste for how a message board should be.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Stockholmed into thinking ads are acceptable. They're not. No social contract says that you have to put up with ads, they're simply unregulated in the USA and people have mostly given up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Reddit ads are way too intrusive and irrelevant.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I am glad that this happened because Lemmy is very interesting platform.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’ve barely been back to Reddit recently and with Apollo gone, I’ll only ever duck my head in when I really have to. I find it a lot easier to leave Reddit behind than Facebook. On FB I’m connected to real world relatives and friends who I just would lose contact with otherwise. On Reddit I converse with strangers and that’s easy to replace. Lemmy has already done it. Is there anything unique about the hobby forums on Reddit? No. They can be reassembled or restarted elsewhere. In some ways it’s probably good to dump the old structures and shake things up. Some subs were better managed and some really just coasted on their name.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I was an early adopter of Reddit back during the digg days and I had over a decade of post history there and to see that go.... I couldn't care less. It was all ephemeral bullshit.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well we’re here basically figuring it out. Time to show them they aren’t needed anymore.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

reddit is just a frame. it always was and will always be, despite the efforts of a few dumb cunts.

the content is the people. that's the secret sauce. just provide people with a framework, and they'll fill the empty space. try to monetize that, and you're just a dick.

i have faith in defederisation. my autocorrect says that isn't a word. let's make it a word.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The thing is, they COULD’VE monetized it and still kept it alive. What they’re doing instead is killing the golden goose for a quick cash-out.

Edit: I hate your username. A lot of trauma associated with that failed tongue-twister.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For June 20 and 21, the most recent days for which Similarweb has estimates, the ads site got in the range of 7,500 to 9,000 visits, Carr explained, meaning that ad-buying traffic has continued to drop.

I'm glad Reddit is feeling something from this, however, at the same time. I kinda don't care. It's a shame it went the way that it did. But spez can't take back his terrible attitude and decision making on what happened. Most people were sympathetic and wanting Reddit to be profitable and rooting for Reddit. However, spez just decided to come out swinging from nowhere hitting his allies in the face.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Yeh I’m in the same boat. The day the internal memo came out about how everything will blow over, I deleted Apollo. I haven’t been back to reddit since and after the first week, I don’t even miss it now.

I wish lemmy was a bit busier, but outside of that the general atmosphere and quality here is better. Even if everything was reversed and Spez was booted, I won’t return now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually, I like the small community vibe of Lemmy. It’s the dead sub vibe I have a problem with. There are lots of really interesting communities, but you don’t see people posting anything yet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I like a lot of the tiny vibe but I miss girl Reddit. It was such a unique social media atmosphere and I haven’t managed to find it here. I hope more of the women from Reddit come here

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I miss GirlGamers, honestly. It was such a refreshing perspective compared to the constantly angry/circlejerky dudebro vibe of 90% of gaming communities

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Are you looking for more girly communities? Maybe consider starting one if you can’t find what you’re looking for.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

However, Similarweb told Gizmodo traffic to the ads.reddit.com portal, where advertisers can buy ads and measure their impact, has dipped. Before the first blackout began, the ads site averaged about 14,900 visits per day. Beginning on June 13, though, the ads site averaged about 11,800 visits per day, a 20% decrease.

For June 20 and 21, the most recent days for which Similarweb has estimates, the ads site got in the range of 7,500 to 9,000 visits, Carr explained, meaning that ad-buying traffic has continued to drop.

This is the only metric that matters to Reddit, so it's nice to see!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

So they really are following Twitter's example. Twitter's lost 59% of ad revenue since Elon took over, now Reddit ad revenue is plummetting. It's stunning how stupid companies can be.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

Imagine that once upon a time (5-15 years ago), I actually had addblocker disabled on reddit, because I considered it worth supporting. lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Dude, I paid for Reddit Premium or Gold or whatever the fuck it's called for 5+ years just to support. I wish I could claw it all back.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

We even used to run "thanks for not using adblock" ads in rotation, when there were no other ads to run. I had a picture of a squirrel that was in rotation there

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The beatings aren't improving morale, you say? I guess we just need to increase the beatings then.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is basically "if you refuse to work for free, then we won't let you work for free. Ha, that'll teach them"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You can't quit! YOU'RE FIRED!!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This seems intentional at this point...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Cant see reactions Fixed it!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

why did it have to be aaron swartz

why couldn't it have been huffman...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I feel like old af now that I’ve watched two huge sites implode due to mismanagement. I was a Digg refuge way back, and now here I am on lemmy…

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Oh yeah Plebbit? What are you gonna do next, hack my PC and force me to read nothing else than random reddit content for the rest of my life?"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Steve: "Uh... hey Elon, I have an idea for your new Neuralink thing, can we talk about it? I'm positive it's gonna be a great success..."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Elon: Do I know you?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I came from days of dialup and gone through yahoo groups, Myspace, tons of geocity sites, ask jeevs, LiveJournal, and so on. Sites will only be an attraction tell something comes that offers more. With federation and decentralized systems coming up, the hold on people and corporations trying to use you as a commodity will only tarnish the shine that it once was. When companies hold a noose around your neck thinking there isn't another option, telling you to go ahaid and jump, thinking no one will and when something comes by that makes the jump just a step down and you can take off the noose, there is nothing that they can hold onto anymore. They cannot say you have nowhere else to go. With the choice around in a federated system, you cannot be held hostage by a single entity. When people have the freedom of choice, the people win.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I’ve got a similar history and agree. Platforms may seem to big to fail, but they really aren’t. Sometimes growth is slow, but once a platform hits a critical mass it’ll explode. I’m new to Lemmy, but Reddit has done the platform a favor, it’s got some great ideas. And with wefwef it feels great to use already. Reddit just payed forward the favor digg did for them ;)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

So traffic is back to normal but ad clicking is way down? Have they not figured out how to make their bots click the ads?

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