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Did Google really just say they'll delete accounts "together with all data"? 😂 (media.kbin.social)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

@pollodiabolo, it's interesting that whenever you post, you get boosts from the same set of accounts that downvote every other thread that trends towards the top. And all this happens roughly within a 10 minute stretch! Incidentally, this happens when those other accounts post too! How strange amirite? Wonder if there's an explanation?

@journalism_died @ishitwhite @muftiboy @kilkennygriffin and way more than I can tag here

EDIT: A few more - @jeremyfurzen @riseupagainstthem @ruse-of-metacarpi @johnson_waters @cazzodicristo @at-fieldu

I suspect a bunch more just to be clear, this is not a comprehensive list. But mentioned accounts are beyond a reasonable doubt either the same person or even if they are different people (very low chance) they are collectively vote manipulating.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It's nice to know some of the posts I've seen those accounts downvoted aren't by people who're really downvoting what the content is about.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nice catch. With upvotes and downvotes being public manipulation is much more difficul

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How can you see who's voting?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm pretty sute the admins can see all the actions on the instance. This reporting is valuable as fuck to spot manipulation

Edit: replied to wrong post..

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks, gonna block all these!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That wouldn't help you much sadly. This person has at least 10-15 accounts (that I can reasonably suspect based on their boosting history) and they will definitely make even more as people get to know about them. You can expect an increase in shills as kbin becomes more popular too lol.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shill op?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

OP tryna karma farm by boosting the fuck out of their posts when they're new posts (from any account), so that they make it near the top of the hot section and then they downvote the top few posts so that theirs gets pushed even further, seen them doing it a bunch of times. What a loser lmao.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"Karma farming" isn't even possible on Lemmy. There's literally no total of up- and downvotes displayed anywhere. And having a meme artificially pushed to the top without reason seems to be nonsensical to me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a kbin account, we have reputation points here, similar to Reddit karma. Even if they post to a lemmy community from kbin, upvotes and boosts will give them karma

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Oh yes, I totally overlooked that. Should've known that when you said "boost".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There was no point to it on Reddit either but that obviously did not stop people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it always baffled me. At least with memes, etc. It makes sense with political content, for example. But memes? Those internet points must really trigger the dopamine.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Someone coming from reddit that doesn't understand how lemmy works? Will it be a self correcting problem once they realize there's absolutely nothing to be gained by shilling posts? Will be interesting to see how this plays out. On a related note, does anyone know if you block a user are their votes still included in the totals you see for posts and comments?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Kbin has karma, OP is posting from kbin to lemmy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, according to this.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you read it closely, they say they "reserve the right to" delete the accounts/data after 2 years of inactivity. They don't actually say they will.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

ohhh now this makes more sense than the other headline. they're just saying "we wanna keep your data, but we also don't wanna be liable in case us having your data ever becomes a problem to us, so we reserve the right to get rid of it whenever we want for no reason and claim we never had it in the first place

yup, now it sounds like the Google I know

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Once the raw emails have been fed into their ad targeting system, the content of those emails loses the vast majority of its value. Storage is cheap, but not free and inactive accounts have particularly low value. So of course they'll delete the data.