This knob is aaalll up in the replies corn cobbing, quite entertaining

https://hexbear.net/comment/3679644

Shoutout to @afellowkid@lemmygrad.ml for their excellent effortpost response. Always good to remember in situations like this, going to the effort to actually refute and answer and educate is important not to fix the dweeb they are responding to, but so that anyone else who comes to see the interaction can see the stark difference between bullshit and the slightest research

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[–] 78 points 3 years ago (3 children)

stop being a bad person biden-point

god these people genuinely think they're the protaganist of a YA novel don't they. fucking christ

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  • [–] 72 points 3 years ago (9 children)

    I think what bothered me the most about him (even more than the genocide apologia), was the absolutely unshakeable smug American exceptionalism. He was certain that the world couldn't do anything without the US, and we should all just be grateful for what we have.

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  • [–] [S] 26 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children)

    Okay, look. The CIA did a lot of bad things to south america. But that was in the 60s, a lifetime ago! And they probably thought they were doing good stuff, they were hard men living in hard times! Things are different now, and the US Government deserves our uncritical rabid devotion!

    edit: this is not parody, I am paraphrasing stuff this person was actually saying

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  • [–] 18 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    this is not parody, I am paraphrasing stuff this person was actually saying

    Oh, I'm well aware. I wanted to put my pointiest stiletto right through his tongue. He's probably also one of the charming people who insist that colonisation made life better for the natives.

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  • [–] 66 points 3 years ago
    1. Yes, the US is purposely starving the world.

    This but unironically

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  • [–] 62 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Typical liberal response.

    ”Hey, do you want to make the world a better place?”

    maybe-later-kiddo ”Too expensive! WhO's GoNnA PaY fOr It?”

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  • [–] 61 points 3 years ago (2 children)
    1. Yes. The US is purposely starving the world

    At least he admits it.

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  • [–] 58 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    This is the first time i have seen anyone be accused of being a norwegian shill

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  • [–] 48 points 3 years ago

    I was kind of surprised by that as well. I was being charitable, as China is the biggest in terms of dollar amounts, but they only contribute $20 per capita or so. Norway is almost $1000 and I thought that should be recognised. I was shocked when he came back with wanting to compare totals. I of course sent him the same link again with China written instead.

    The guy was absolutely unreachable, but I just tried to present him with actual facts as simply as possible, as they are easy for observers to verify. I'm grateful to the others who explained the geopolitical realities for the people who wanted more though.

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  • [–] 51 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah “Humans Rights” is a ridiculous framing of any issue

    America would have to pay for more food and we already give the world enough aid

    I hope they personally starve to death.

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  • [–] 43 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Isn’t “virtue signaling” a term fascists use? I think this might be a fascist, not a liberal, although both suck.

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  • [–] 62 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Virtue signalling can be a valid non-reactionary critique at times (for examplr the :liberalism: emoji). But yeah conservatives tend to use it more often. Since they are morally bankrupt sadists even surface-level positive changes piss them off.

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  • [–] [S] 23 points 3 years ago*

    This may be the ultimate example of Virtue Signaling™ Ive ever seen. Insead of doing their jobs as legislators and creating legislation to fight injustice, without even pretending to try, they don parody level racist "african culture" scarfs, and then to 'honor' George Floyd they reenact the way in which he was murdered for a fucking photo op.

    added bonus, half of them then struggle badly to get back to their feet after kneeling, a great dog and pony gerontocracy show

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  • [–] 33 points 3 years ago

    The US, notable for leaving other sovereign nations alone

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  • [–] 30 points 3 years ago

    A comrade already pointed this out in another post, but it seems like most liberals are unable to grasp the fact that the US isn’t a villain in a back room twirling its mustache while trying to inflict as much harm as possible on the world for the sake of causing harm. It’s a profit-driven death cult that will write off each atrocity and sociopathic intention as a business expense.

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  • [–] 29 points 3 years ago
    1. America and it's cronies

    2. China

    3. America and it's cronies

    idk what everyone's talking about, this debate stuff is easy??

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  • [–] 21 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    smuglord you must answer my questions three!

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  • [–] 14 points 3 years ago

    The deepest criticism you could levy at this mentality is that it's the U.S. that is by far most responsible for making a mockery of international law.

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  • [+] 8 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    short: yes but actually no

    Long: this one (2002 resolution) was performative and entirely reiterates other resolutions and decisions from other bodies. Other resolutions though are enforced through aid organizations (aid only goes to those who "play nice") and sanctions. Ofc any sanction proposed against the security council can be assumed to be vetoed, so in a microcosm the rich/powerful states play by different rules than the rest.

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  • [+] 7 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
    [–] 4 points 3 years ago*

    "I didn't say per Capita" bro that's exactly what you should expect of aid. No one is expecting idk, Lesotho to name some random small nation to give billions and billions in aid.

    Per capita and percentage of sovereign wealth are the two main metrics people would judge off, not total amounts.

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