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DEBATE PERVERT ALERT (lemmygrad.ml)
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[-] [email protected] 71 points 2 years ago

Oh I remember this guy. He made the bold choice of taking the username goat and then instead of meaning “greatest of all time” just went with… a literal goat. Which, I think everyone has to agree, you absolutely have to respect.

I wonder if someone can create or has already created a “Marxist AI” that can argue purely from like an ML stance, avoiding the bullshit centrist shit. Let the perverts debate a literal robot all day.

[-] [email protected] 32 points 2 years ago

I think they are impersonating this relatively popular fediverse user/admin: https://hellsite.site/@goat

[-] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago

Lol character.ai Stalin isnt too bad

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[-] [email protected] 69 points 2 years ago

🤓 Please meet me in the market place of ideas 🤓

[-] [email protected] 47 points 2 years ago

"Not up for a debate? I will return in 5 minutes."

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[-] [email protected] 34 points 2 years ago

I'm more into the planned economy of ideas.

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[-] [email protected] 55 points 2 years ago

Y’know people like to point to this and be like “oh so you guys refuse to debate? You must be afraid that your echo-chamber is not as secure as you think, I have some points that will really make you re-evaluate your stances” and yea at first glance any normal person will be like, ok let’s hear them out… now skip ahead like 3 years… those Mastur-debators were proven wrong and given book recommendations to help better define terms, better help understand key aspects of theory and class struggle/ societal structuring of class antagonisms, and history. You would think the Mastur-debators would be like “huh, I don’t actually know as much about Marxism-Leninism or Dial-Mat, etc. as much as I thought” but no! New ones pop up and ask the same questions, BEST CASE SCENARIO, they bring up a new point to be corrected. Worst case scenario: aka the most common one, they just parrot back the same talking points as the last one did, and we have to shut down debate and be like “bruh we already covered this please read this, I’m not typing out a whole 4 paragraphs, this is on you to do your research next time” and all of a sudden we’re tankies that don’t wanna debate because we’re afraid of it.

[-] [email protected] 34 points 2 years ago

the most productive disagreements are between people who share a common foundation. the actual most likely result of sending a long effortpost in reply to someone like this is that they'll cherrypick pieces of what you said and try to paint you in the worst possible light - assuming they don't ignore everything you said and just ramble at length on whatever they feel like talking about. moreover, no one is owed your time. the fact that someone wants a debate doesn't mean you have to give it to them. this is all just basic social hygiene.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago

What irritates me with the echo chamber accusation is that it's impossible to be in a communist echo chamber if you're an anglophone. Liberal values and tropes are so baked into every aspect of Western society that it's impossible to interact with English-speaking societies without being constantly bombarded by their horseshit and the harmful effects of it.

Communities like this one are less echo chamber and more like a sound-proofed booth to get some respite from the constant torrent of brain shitfuckery that comes with existing as an anglophone.

[-] [email protected] 53 points 2 years ago

Oh shit, it's the meanwhile on grad mod who impersonates a mastodon user.

[-] [email protected] 30 points 2 years ago

I was wondering why his username was so familiar! I'd completely forgotten about that idiot. I just checked out meanwhileongrad again. I get the feeling that they wanted it to be like shit liberals say or selfawarewolves. But there's just nothing there. The top posts for the month were speculation that beehaw is run by US psy-ops, a discussion of homophobia in China, and a complaint about downvotes on a post on a liberal instance. (I can't be bothered to look up what the post was)

That's the absolute best that they could come up with in the last month. Well done libs.

[-] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago

It's a bargain bin tankiejerk.

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Our deepest fear

[-] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago

This guy got 3 star notoriety here on Lemmygrad like it's fucking GTA xD. He will never achieve the legendary Wisconscom 6 star though lmao

[-] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago

You have to go THERMONUCLEAR! to get 6 star.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago

Comrade Wisconscom living rent free in our heads. 😔

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[-] [email protected] 36 points 2 years ago

Average sh.itjust.works user

[-] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago

What's the deal with that instance? Linux stuff?

[-] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago

It's a general-purpose instance that leans Libertarian.

Take a look at their community list. Besides the sorts of general-purpose communities that every instance has: Gaming, NonCredibleDefense (started as a shitposting spinoff of CredibleDefense, a subreddit about military discussion. Nowadays the community is basically a NATO circlejerk), AI shit, and "MeanwhileOnGrad", the community dedicated to posting our w's to get mad at.

(And after checking, it turns out the guy in the screenshot is the sole moderator of /c/MeanwhileOnGrad who makes basically all of their posts lol. Talk about living rent free)

The owner of sh.itjust.works is also a weird free-speech-absolutist Libertarian guy. He made a big stink about the community forcing him to defederate from exploding-heads, the Nazi instance, because he believed in "free speech". Users pointed out that sh.itjust.works had been defederated from Lemmygrad since it was created, and the admin confessed that that was because of "personal opinions" (that apparently did not apply to literal Nazis).

[-] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago

leans Libertarian

Uh oh libertarian-alert

[-] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago

… the community dedicated to posting our w’s to get mad at.

May as well sign up and sort by local at that point; all we post is w's.

[-] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago

just another lib instance that is no different from lemmee or world, they're all trying to be the same.

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[-] [email protected] 27 points 2 years ago

Deez nuts lmao gottem

[-] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago

What's deez? Genuine question, I've come here to debate you socialists and your sick ways.

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"Are you up for a discussion???"

[-] [email protected] 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Hey, at least he did unload from the outset.

I don't see what he imagines your perspective to be when you knowingly compiled a list of theses that the majority of people in the west would strongly object to. Like, does he imagine that you imagine that anyone who reads it would simply become a Marxist? Or that almost any liberal would change their mind by sheer dint of the polemical impact of an aggregation of links? Because obviously no Marxist would believe such a thing, and we can infer from that that most of the possible audience for the document would come away with opinions that they've "found numerous flaws and sometimes falsehoods." Given that, who gives a shit what some random asshole with nothing but complaints has to say? What makes him different from the hundreds of millions of people who could summarize their reaction in just the same words? If he has any special qualification to speak on one of the subjects covered, he should have lead with that.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago

HIM AGAIN??!?

[-] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago

I want to engage with you.

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Sounds like my father honestly

[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago

Tbf they do sound like they could be a Marxist now.

[-] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago

with how much they're reading lemmygrad I'm tempted to post quotes and links to theory at the end of my comments

[-] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

Just be careful with the dunks or they'll use them against us lol

[-] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago

they're going to do that anyway. it's a bad reason not to dunk.

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