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[–] [email protected] 90 points 6 months ago (3 children)

He claims they removed the ability to adjust graphics options. This is false- they just removed the launcher so it's tucked away in the launch options instead. Unless you're the kind of person who wants to change the settings every time you open the game I'd call this an improvement still.

He also claims that the FPS is lower than what the Deck is reporting and claims it feels bad. Fails to go into any methodology or even say if he tries to verify the FPS any other way. Maybe I'm just used to actual journalists doing actual research, but isn't this the point where most competent people would look to install 3rd party monitoring tools? Maybe hook it up to a capture card or external monitor? Look at frame time graphs? Like, we have the technology to support these claims, but this is just one dude saying it "feels okay". He makes references like "we tested" but doesn't include any test results.

Not to mention... Go look at Valve's publications about the Verified tag. I can't find a single reference to the frame rate anywhere. So even if the frame rate is low, that's not part of the testing process. What is or is not "playable" is incredibly subjective and variable. Some games are fine at 30, some need 60, some really benefit from >60, some games can even survive as playable at 15 FPS. Some games run mostly at 60 but dip occasionally. Some will be impacted by the performance settings on the Deck. Not to mention devs are constantly pushing updates and it's not worth the time to re-test for Deck verification that often for a possible +/-1 FPS difference.

Then he mentions crashing. No solid data or anything, just mentions a crash. He doesn't mention, but anytime I hear anyone complain about a Bethesda game crashing my first question is "are you using mods?". It would be incredibly irresponsible to do "testing" with mods, but at this point I'm not sure whether the author is sharing real experiences or just parroting what he read on Reddit.

There may very well be valid concerns here, but it's impossible to tell because of how bad this article is.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

anytime I hear anyone complain about a Bethesda game crashing my first question is "are you using mods?"

Anytime I hear anyone complain about a Bethesda game crashing my first thought is "yep, sounds like a Bethesda game"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

If you look at the author's bio, it seems like they're more of a hardware peripherals tester than a perf tester.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I've played the first couple of hours on the Deck and it's been fine for me so far, pretty consistent 50-60fps and no major bugs or crashes. The frame rate seems pretty good even when outside too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

There's a few rough areas such as Boston which is trash for FPS on all systems (I got like 35ish there on Deck), but it's easily remedied with mods. I run ~20 mods when playing "vanilla" and got a locked 50 FPS through an entire playthrough. The game makes sense to be Deck verified.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I completely disagree with the usage of the word completely because I completely believe it is a completely exaggerated title. Completely

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago

Completely.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

I agree with some of what you said but not all of it. So I don't agree, uh, all the way? One hundred percent? With the totality of your statement? There's gotta be a better way to say that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Fallout 4 since the patch.

Clean Install,

New Game,

No Mods,

It's been crashing to desktop with no error message like crazy. It takes forever to load between instances (on an PCIe 4.0 M2 drive)

It's a complete flaky mess.

Even in game garbage like DeathClaws getting trapped in build geometry, character getting stuck on things accessing a computer, and other random Bethesda standard shit that you'd think they'd have fixed after all these years....

I couldn't imagine the horse pile of shit problems this game would have running in Proton on SteamDeck. I'm not even going to bother trying to run it on the Steam Deck. It's not even stable on a PC.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like a 9.5/10 to me

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

I think you mean it sounds like a AAAA game

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago

It's pretty glitchy on PC too if I remember

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

Well, I think Verified on Steam Deck means the experience isn't any worse than it is on PC...