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    [–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    I never understood these. Arch has always been rock solid for me and in 10 years or so I have never had to chroot to fix an issue. The most annoying issues have been related to PGP signatures or old certificates but those have been easily fixed.

    What is it you people do to your arch installs that fucks them up so much?

    [–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    forcing reboot when mid update cause u think the system froze

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Flashbacks to me having borked my manjaro install trying to update after having gotten stable diffusion running on older AMD hardware, and subsequently panicking and fucking it up more trying to repair it

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

    I redownload and reinstall all packages if an update is interrupted. Sometimes a pacman -Syu completes the upgrade but usually it is not enough. https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Pacman/Tips_and_tricks#Reinstalling_all_packages

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

    The only time is during setup once I forgot to download iwd so I had to chroot back in to install that from within the installer.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

    I've fucked up my grub install before, that's the only time I've needed to use it, and it was an easy fix

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
    • Nvidia driver (not me, I'm poor)
    • dubious/niche AUR packages
    • Wrong settings on BIOS/UEFI
    • Windows Update on dual-boot setup (sometimes)

    I don't know why, but my archlinux bootloader always disappear if I connet bootable disk when my computer is booting, lol...

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    What the hell are people finding on the AUR? I just need it to install like... Discord and Lutrus?

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

    Some custom or git version of application. Once a time I need to use sddm git to fix bug with my hylrland.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's possible your uefi has a thing about default EFI boot names. I ended up changing mine to just boot because if I update the bios it clears everything and doesn't automatically pick up any EFI except boot.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    My advice is that you make sure you use a full unblemished calf for sacrifice with gilded horns of gold.

    If you don't gild the horns and burn the fatty thigh parts in the fire then it will never boot.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

    Hmm may be, I'll try to check that. Thx..

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

    X11 had some breaking updates in the past, my monolithic multi monitor config was suddenly in the wrong spot. Or packages I was supposed to delete before an upgrade according to the newspage, but I updated impulsively bam chroot times. That was years ago and made me switch, maybe it has become better?

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Using Manjaro+Nvidia. About a 20% of kernel or driver updates leaves me with a black screen. Then I do rollback and wait for a bit more stable version ¯_(ツ)_/¯

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Your mistake was using manjaro

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

    And/or nvidia

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

    Only time I've had to do it so far was due to dual booting Windows and it overriding boot thingies. Apart from that it has been running more or less flawlessly for a few years now.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

    I recently had to when sbupdate wasn't compatible with the latest systemd

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I personally had my Arch install broken 2 times from standard updates about 5 years ago. Jumped ship and never installed Arch again.

    [–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

    Best I can do is 20 business minutes.

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Btrfs snapshots are a blessing. Call me a cheater :P

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Timeshift makes it even easier

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Timeshift <<< btrfs + snapper

    Snapper comes (at least in TW) with snapper-grub, so yeah, you can go back to a working state from grub.

    If an update botches your boot process, you're SOL with Timeshift.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Timeshift also allows you to boot snapshots from grub wdym

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

    Oh really? I didn't know that! Guess it's time to go do some reading, thanks for the TIL!

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago
    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

    I chrooted in about 30 times on my first day.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

    Laughs in simple ubuntu setup, that only took me 10% of effort mostly installing it :p

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

    That was my own fault, i configured Booster wrong.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    So basically, if you ask how it works, it'll just answer: "I am chroot"

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago