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[–] [email protected] 46 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The majority of Republikans are liberals too. In the classical sense of the word. Calling chuds "liberals" melts that place of theirs where the brain is usually supposed to be.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I call them liberals so much and so instinctively at this point that I legitimately get confused when they get all pissy. We should keep forcing it into common American understanding though.

The term "conservative" as it's popularly used 1) kinda means nothing (which is perfect for them) so 2) is an ever changing term.

A conservative in 1970 US politics vs now are very different in their approach and thinking... obviously some stuff remains unchanged, but in the 1960s/70s you could still just be like a Strom Thurmond KKK guy openly denouncing integration and rights for black people while serving in the senate until you're 100 goddamn years old... literally. Richard Nixon signed the EPA into law which today would be off the table even for Obama, I imagine. It would never get to his desk whatever his personal philosophy would be.

So their ideas and way of speaking changes since their only true ideology is something boiled down to "support 'free markets'" or allow capitalists to exploit labor maximumly and use any wedge issues which are beneficial along the way such as racism, abortion, etc. Maintain US hegemonic dominance around the world through soft and hard power, as required, in service to capital.

On the other hand, ask a hardcore fascist/Nazi or even KKK guy their thoughts in 1960 or today and it's "we want a separate nation only available for white people..." blah blah blah, all the shit. Their ideology remains the same as always. They believe in racial supremacy of white people, however they break that down, and they want a "pure land" for their chosen race. The more politically savvy ones will swap words around for plausible deniability, but the core ideology is basically the same in the end. They hate communists, they hate non-whites, especially being forced to live around and respect them as humans, they blame all societal ills on non-white minorities and/or non-cis, straight minorities. Same old tale.

On the left, if you filter out the liberals LARPing (gotta similarly filter the more libbed up conservatives from their Nazi compatriots as well), you'll hear the same arguments that communist-types have had since the 1960s, since the 1920s, and further back. Because it's rooted in an ideology, so specific arguments of the time period change maybe, wording might change, but fundamentals like labor being the source of all value and thus capitalists having no right to the value created by others... remains core and unchanged.

[this isn't a "give it to the Nazis for ideological purity" argument, btw, to the liberals in my walls. It's about political terminology and ties to strongly held ideology which American "liberals" and "conservatives" both share in common. Just about the only thing Nazis can ever coherently express is their hatred for non-white people. Beyond that, good fucking luck finding any sense in their statements and beliefs]

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And in the other hand, liberals does nothing and advocate for nothing except keeping the status quo, how's that not conservatism?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Liberalism was revolutionary against feudalism, but after complete victory of capitalism, it became a conservative ideology.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 43 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago

anime ira goes hard

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago

I wish ye all black and tans a very merry fight me like a man

[–] [email protected] 35 points 7 months ago

Yes, I am a republican. I support the People's Republic.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh so you want Trump to get elected?!??!!!!!!1111!!! Reeeeeeeeeeeeee

[–] [email protected] 38 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I find it absolutely hilarious how libs see Trump as the source of all the problems. Like if they could just make the bad orange man go away then everything would be great again.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Blue MAGA = Make America Great Again by getting rid of bad orange man

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

that's literally the level of sophistication of your typical lib

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I call them woke MAGA

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago

Yes, an Irish/Spanish Republican

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

And forget about the ones like V*ush that call themselves socialist and denounce agitation and that the only path to revolution is to vote Democrats harder than ever.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

THIS kind of republican.

26+6=1 tiocfaidh ár lá

(I am more an INLA/IRSP man myself, the ML wing of the Irish Republican struggle. There is no denying the powerful impact of this picture however).

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

Yes I am a republican. A SOCIALIST REPUBLICAN

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

Libs when they can no longer pretend to hold the moral high ground

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

"so you vote Tru-"

"Your honor it was self defence."