"There’s no posse and there’s no retinue and there’s no family," says Chris Hayes on Trump's arraignment. "The guy is alone. He is solo rolling with the lawyers who hope his checks clear."

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[–] 202 points 3 years ago (19 children)

At this point an indictment of Trump in the US has reached the same level as mass shootings and our dying planet. Which indictment, mass shooting or catastrophic environmental disaster are we talking about? I’m numb and have lost track amongst the desperate hopes for change.

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  • [–] 34 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    This is definitely some of it. Although being in DC probably also helps to tone things down. DC is a pretty blue town outside of the federal buildings.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    What i find interesting is that somehow in developing countries justice was slow but eventually it arrived. I can think of places like Peru with Fujimori. Presidents got away for a while but eventually their own justice systems made them pay. I would be surprised if somehow justice didn't prevail in this situation with Trump.

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    [+] 123 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (24 children)
  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago (17 children)

    It's never gonna happen. At most he'll become bogged down in lawsuits and charges till he dies. But there's no way they'll ever allow a u.s president to set foot in jail

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  • [–] 18 points 3 years ago (15 children)

    Hard disagree.

    This stupid cuck is going to jail 100% if he does not win the next presidential election. Our legal system can be pretty fucked up sometimes but it's not that fucked up, this guy literally tried to overthrow our democracy.

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    [–] 118 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    I imagine one of the prosecutors touches Trump's forehead for a few seconds, then says: "It's afraid!"

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    [–] 112 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    Most of the protesters aren't allowed near Washington DC government buildings due to their plea deals.

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    [–] 75 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Oh no, the consequences of his own actions.

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  • [–] 55 points 3 years ago* (15 children)

    The fascists aren't stupid. They see the writing on the wall so they're moving on. Completely expected and even if Trump gets the death penalty the threat is by no means gone. Trump is a symptom, not the disease itself.

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  • [–] 39 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (4 children)

    Beard has a great quote from her book SPQR

    “If the assassination of Julius Caesar became a model for the effective removal of a tyrant, it was also a powerful reminder that getting rid of a tyrant did not necessarily dispose of tyranny.”

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  • [–] 24 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    The fascists aren’t stupid.

    Citation needed

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  • [–] 18 points 3 years ago

    There's a distinction to be made between the fascists—the people in power pushing fascism—and the people voting for it. The latter are ignorant and stupid. The former are wringing the country dry for money and power.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    This is a major problem with the right wing, there is no principles or loyalty or anything. It’s not the major problem, it’s just one.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)

    Additionally, a leader is just a tool used by a collective. The collective is in power, not the leader. Trump is no longer useful to them so he is being replaced, just like how a medieval king who fails to please his court of nobles is overthrown for a king that can.

    Whether you can overthrow a leader simply depends on if you're part of the collective they serve or not. The reason the general public can't get rid of corrupt politicians or near universally hated people like Bezos or Elon, is because the collective that appoints them is not the public, but much like the medieval king, they only have to answer to a small group of modern day nobles (AKA the corporations, investors, and ultra rich in general).

    It's the ruling class, not the individual ruler, that calls the shots. Always. Because a single person can never enforce their rule alone, it requires a group that collectively has sufficient power to enforce their collective rule.

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    I think the point is that usually there is a gaggle of hangers on, that think they can avoid being thrown under the bus. That group is shrinking.

    Supporters are still supporters, but less inclined to make an effort to support. It's a sign of waning power as the emperor's new clothes are indeed missing.

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    [–] 40 points 3 years ago (10 children)

    Sad that he can't Grab Them By The Posse!!!

    /s

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    [–] 26 points 3 years ago

    Sad trombone lol

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  • [–] 24 points 3 years ago (10 children)

    What checks? They think they're getting paid?

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  • [–] 19 points 3 years ago* (7 children)

    And yet he still stiffed Rudy Giuliani.

    Giuliani should have seen it coming though, it’s like someone who marries a known cheater and is shocked they got cheated on.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    Well, Rudy had a number of embarrassing moments in public that I think caused Trump to lose any respect he might have had for the former mayor. Two that I can think of, the hair dye sweating down his face and the fart picked up on mic in a courtroom.

    But his worst offense, in terms of how Trump views people: he lost. He's a loser.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    He's not alone. He still has millions of US voters on his side.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 years ago

    He has to be pissed that Jarvanka took the 3 billion and booked without kicking up to the head czar

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