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When I first started this show I found it to be a really awkward mix of comedy and seriousness. It had some jokes thrown it at the most inopportune times as some kind of comic relief from a really serious situation. Perhaps the first half of the first season was actually a bit rough or maybe the show just grew on me, but by season 2 I found myself loving this show.

To me it seems as every bit as comfy, intellectually interesting and even funny as some classic Star Treks while still clearly being its own thing. I wish more comfy space shows like this would get made.

What are your thoughts on The Orville? Also I miss Alara.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Orville is to Star Trek as Spaceballs was to Star Wars. A humorous parody, but I can appreciate the effort that they put in to have the show take itself a bit more seriously during dramatic scenes. I enjoyed it, although I only saw two seasons.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Actually I think much like Strange New Worlds, I think that it showed me how much of the recent issues I have with Star Trek is that it takes itself too seriously. (In fact also as for Star Wars, as blasphemous it is to mention here)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I like it, enjoy it for the most part and am glad it exists. But the politics comes off a bit weak and tips sometimes too far towards the self-congratulatory ethno-centrism of bad early 20th century anthropology.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

By season 2, I was also hooked to this show. I wish they would make more seasons!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It's better Trek than most Trek, IMO. Had some cool adventures and raised some interesting on sometimes difficult questions about morality and how it's shaped by our societies.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Loved Series 1-3. When is Series 4 due? Seth Rocks!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I love the Orville, but the shift in format with the most recent season, to movie length episodes, made it largely inaccessible to me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just pause it and come back to it later, at least that's how we watch some movies during the week, 45 min segments and pick it up the next day

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Like others said, the humor started out really awkward and forced, but I feel like they hit their stride by season 2

I don't think it'll ever go down in the annals of the greatest scifi shows I history. But as you say, it's a really excellent "comfy" show

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I like it! It's a nice casual space show with a decent mix of humor and seriousness.

I find it to be more "star trek" than some of the new star trek shows.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I liked it, it is pretty star trek the next generation(which i love) though sometimes it gets really up its own ass. I like more philosophical/ethical subject episodes than constant interpersonal relationship episodes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The pure silliness is just too much for me. I know they are trying to hide something good under there, I can see glimpses of it, but I just can't get past the constant childish humor.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sure this has been said in other comments but I would love to see Seth McFarlane given the Star Trek IP and free reign. I would actually pay Paramount Plus or whatever streaming service like $20 a month while this theoretical show was active. As an aside I think Garak is the best character in all of Star Trek.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So I respectfully disagree with this. I love the show, and it pre-dates the startrek revival, but its very much it's own thing. There's clearly a lot of love there, but it's not the same. Closest you get is lower decks, which ate a lot of Orvilles lunch but still toned down a ton of riff and grosser comedy.

It's weird, it's wonderful, it kept the flame burning when there wasn't much else there yet and probably played a role in showing there was a market for a lot of the newer trek we have now.

MacFarlene loves trek. I hope he's proud of the show, keeps some of the more serious and weird genuine sci-fi elements, but he shouldn't do trek. Trek is fine now. Seth can do his own damn thing. He's got the chops for it. He needs to work on making the gear shift from "real sci-fi" to "family guy in space" a little less abrupt and a bit more blended, but it's great to have out there and I'll never miss an episode.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't think Trek is fine now. I don't think there has been a Star Trek revival. I love the Orville. I 100% believe the show is a success on its own. Unfortunately I don't think we are going to see more Orville and I would rather see McFarlane in charge of Trek than anything SNW will put out. SNW is fine. Lower Decks is fine. Compared to Discovery and Picard they are friggin masterpieces. But judged on their own they are just fine. In my opinion. Some people love them and I don't understand but whatever. I just want more cerebral sci-fi in any form I can get it.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I personally really enjoy it. It is more heartfelt than I expected.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

That the first season/part of first season was awkward qualified it as part of the Star Trek tradition, they all stumbled around to figure out what they were doing at first. I would say that it is Star Trek just as much as Galaxy Quest is a Star Trek movie, and perhaps that's the issue with some not liking it fully...it's a parody/alternate take of the idea carried out a bit too long, whereas Galaxy Quest was the perfect amount.

As a Star Trek fan since the 70s, I can say that all versions have their highs and lows, there isn't a perfect one. And from the Vulcan philosophy of IDIC (Infinite Diversity In Infinite Combinations), this is how it should be. The more the better, even some of Discovery. I think the idea of Discovery was great, it just wasn't implemented well, but again, I could point out other Star Trek that shared that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It was fine. Had a lot of good parts and interesting plots. Also was completely cringy and stupid in plot decisions at times. I'd watch another season if it came out, but Seth Macfarlane can't act his way into a middle school play. His heart-to-heart scenes are painfully awful.

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