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Curious about the stability of using Photoshop with Wine or a VM. Photoshop and Marvelous Designer are the only apps I use that aren’t on linux. I wonder if using Wine for Photoshop would be simplified if people try a version like m0nkrus that doesn’t require the creative cloud.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

I don't know what you heard about me

It's the motherduckin G I M P

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm so glad I started using Linux before getting used too much to something that doesn't support it. (If you have the time to try out different things, give Krita a shot)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I’ve tried Krita, it’s getting there but its still not great

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

My need for the Adobe CC Suite professionally is what keeps me from switching to Linux as a daily driver (currently on macOS). If I could get the latest version running reliably on Linux, I’d love to switch.

I’ve tried the alternatives, and they’re just not good enough for me. I really wish Adobe would port their stuff to Linux.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The best we can ever hope for are CC browser versions. They'll never create a native Linux port. At least not in the next 10 years. :(

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I feel like Pixlr is very very close to being a browser based version of photo shop. But still not quite the same

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I went in hard.

I'm using Photoshop creative cloud on the web, switched illustrator for Inkscape (the CC version is in alpha stage). Davinci resolve and kdenlive, Scribus sucked so hard that I gave up my InDesign tasks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Cheers to you, mate, really. I might fiddle with photoshop web…

But I’m on a production timeline most of the time, and I need everything to work and interoperate seamlessly in my workflow, which is part of why CC is so great for me. Plus, I don’t pay for it. If I did, this would be a very different conversation, lol!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I completely get why you'd stick with MacOS if you need CC software. That being said I am very glad about the general lack of anti-user software like Adobe's suite on Linux and I hope they don't port their CC software to Linux. Instead I hope FOSS alternatives get better to the point where most PS/CC users can reasonably meet all their needs with free (as in libre) software. GIMP is pretty decent these days although I find it a lot more clunky and awkward to use than PS. But hopefully either the gap can close or some new FOSS developer can create an even better alternative.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

I recently went through a process of trying out all the options for photo processing on linux. I dont do drawing, just raw Nikon files for processing, so I have a slightly different set of criteria.

Darktable and RawThreapee produce reasonable results, but the UI's are a mess and far far too complicated. They're on the right track, but I felt like I was being asked to enter every parameter in to a complex API function with no idea what anything meant. For some people they're probably fine, but you really don't have to look far before the complexity is in your face and you're just entering random numbers and crossing your fingers.

Nikon Studio NX in Wine is dog slow. Better in a windows VM on linux, but the results aren't great.

GIMP isn't targeted at raw photo editing.

Photolab in a windows VM is slow but excellent otherwise.

I ended up creating a dual boot windows setup and buying Photolab 7 Elite. I didn't want to set up a windows disk as I'd been free of it for maybe 7 years now, but for this use case it's definitely justified imho. The fact Photolab isn't subscription based means its better than Lightroom. The noise reduction algorithms are outstanding, the workflow is nice and not tied to a database or a weird import process. The controls are logical and easy to use. And it reads the camera and lens used for each photo and applies the correct corrections to tour image automatically.

So not what I wanted to end up with as a solution, but the results are so good its a no brainer in the end.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

For PS your only options are:

  • run an ancient version of PS on Wine
  • Subscribe to creative cloud and run PS online-only web version which has 80% of the features
  • Use Photopea which has 95% of the features but it's online only
  • Use GIMP (horrible UX/UI but it's offline and has 90% of the features)
  • Use Krita (not the same, but some features are there)

I went with CC PS web, since I work for a company that requires the use of PS.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Why not use a modern version of PS without creative cloud so it doesnt break it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

They crash or are painfully slow.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I can't even get the stability I need out of it on Windows.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Have you tried any more recent versions?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It probably is possible to pirate an old version of photoshop and get it running under wine. Like other commenters have noted Krita and Gimp are becoming more viable all of the time.

My photo editing skills are too novice level to notice missing features in the linux alternatives but I'm sure they exist. Although part of me does wonder if some of the barrier to people adopting these is that they are photoshop "power users" who do a lot based on muscle memory... maybe the features aren't all missing but the interface is just too different to feel "complete".

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

No there are still legitimately essential things that Gimp lacks like adjustment layers. I hear they’re releasing this exact feature soon though. So, hopefully it will have parity with minimum viable photoshop VERRRRY soon.

Ps. Fuck Adobe.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah I could believe that. Like I mentioned my knowledge of photo editing is basically 0!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Its funny but what i miss the most in Gimp is the ability to freely rotate the cropping tool. Its the one thing that breaks it for me

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