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Article says that liberal Democrats are the most supportive of giving more funding to Ukraine.
Pink imperialism, I see.
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Most Americans oppose everything Congress does but that doesn't stop it
Maybe we should sanction America so Americans will rise up and demand their government changes… I mean, that’s how it works, right? Surely Putin will be murdered by angry, starving Russians any day now
If Americans held themselves to the same standards by which they judge other countries, then they'd have couped themselves several hundred times by now.
I think it's pretty safe to say the 180° heel turn has arrived
On to the next grift then
A bigger worry across partisan lines in the new poll is that the war will continue without a resolution for a long time. Nearly 8 in 10 are worried about that, including 82% of Democrats, 75% of independents and 73% of Republicans.
The best anti-war line to take is "this stalemate will go on indefinitely, either it ends in a ceasefire and negotiated peace now or after countless more people die." Most Americans already agree with the first half, and the last half follows logically. It also brings out the neolib psychos who talk about the ROI of marching Ukrainians into artillery fire.
Obviously you can oppose the war (especially the NATO role in it) for a hundred reasons, but we already have an in with this one.
When any mention of peace makes you a Putinist, obvious thing is they are out for blood.
Reality is war will go on as long as people are making profit. Even those 80% are aware of it and respond accordingly they don't like the war, but reality is they support it and you can see it in their politics, elections but also just talking with them.
libs on lemmy.ml are brigading and downvoting 😂 https://lemmy.ml/post/2808871
The irony of libs commenting " fuck CNN".
I love how they all got trained up to scream Russian propaganda when faced with anything that goes against the war narrative, and now they're at the point where they're rejecting what their own propaganda outlets say. We live in amazing times.
wow, i had no idea the majority of americans were ruzzian kremlin hired operatives
I'm genuinely surprised that we haven't heard Zelensky or some other Ukrainian big wig insult all the Americans who don't want to contribute yet. That's what I thought was going to cause support to erode.
Guess they know better than to bite the feeding hand
This is just a dogwhistle to Zelensky to let him know his time is running out, nothing more.
Oh yeah, that's why they aren't asking us. They just send these aid packages over there willg nilly. Even Pro-Ukraine people are sick of this.
I have only met one person IRL that cared about the war in any real way other than indifference and they had gobbled up the "Russia bad" narrative. I then proceeded to shit on every argument they had till they just stopped talking and changed the subject because they have no actual rebuttal.
I think in the year and a half this has been going on, I am yet to find more than one person IRL who actually cares. Most people don't go any further than a 'yeah, Ukraine' comment. But how could you care when your own groceries have increased 40-50% in price and you can't afford to warm your house.
US aid for Ukraine
Isn't it loan and Ukraine is in huge debt right now? Calling it "aid" is understandable for mass media, but in reality it is just a bank loan.
Indeed, which is one of the reasons Ukrainian government had begun mass privatisation
How many of those polled support war with China instead?