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Behind the scenes, Biden has grown angry and anxious about re-election effort (www.nbcnews.com)

submitted 8 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (1 children)

GOOD. He SHOULD be anxious. His numbers right now in states he won, states he NEEDS TO WIN AGAIN, are awful.

Every one of his supporters needs to stop burying their head in the sand, get out, and organize.

This isn't 2020 where we could increase the vote count because Covid pushed everything to vote by mail, turn out is going to be down.

In 2020, Biden won:

Georgia (Biden +0.23%): Currently Trump +3 to +7
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/georgia/

Pennsylvania (+1.17%): Trump +4
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/pennsylvania/

Michigan (+2.78%): Trump +3 to +5
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/michigan/

Wisconsin (+0.63%): Trump +3 to +4
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/wisconsin/

Arizona (+0.3%): Trump +4 to +5
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/arizona/

Nevada (+2.39%): Trump +5 to +7
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/nevada/

In a good number of these states, even though he won, he did so by a plurality, not a majority. There is not a lot of wiggle room and if the election were today, he would lose.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (5 children)

I try to warn them but they just think I'm a Russian bot.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The worst ones are the ones who go "The only poll that counts is election day!"

And I'm like "Yeah, that's how you LOSE and then do a book tour about 'Whyyyyyy? Why did I looooose? It must be someone else's fauuuuulllt!"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Happened_(Clinton_book)

Yeah, here's what happened... you shot off your mouth in West Virginia, a state you were NEVER going to win, which lost you Pennsylvania (20 electoral college votes). Then you failed to campaign AT ALL in Michigan (16) and Wisconsin (10).

Could have been 273 to 258. That's what happened.

Joe needs to show up BIG in all three of those states. There's absolutely no excuse for "Son of Scranton" to be down 4 in PA. None.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Right?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Sounds like something a Russian bot would say.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Because you don't offer any solutions. Saying "Democrats bad" does absolutely nothing to further the conversation or help steer them in the right direction. If something is dire enough to require all these "warnings" then it should be paired with actions people can take to improve the situation. It is not difficult to say "Democrats bad, Republicans are worse, here's how we fix it". If you don't feel those extra steps are necessary I would argue your concern isn't very genuine.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Protip, not talking about the problems is also not a solution. Seems you just like your silence. Half the articles posted on lemmy have no solutions presented, yet we don't find people saying things like this on those. I wonder why.

Also on the face of it its a ridiculous asertation. Should people only post articles about problems they themselves have solutions for? Because that sounds wholly stupid.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Oh I'm not saying every article/comment needs to be about solutions at all. That would be ridiculous and wholly stupid, I agree. But someone posting negative articles and comments about the Democrats all day long and acting like theyre doing it out of concern is absurd (so is the "you guys take all the positive ones so that's all that's left over" thing). It's doing nothing but creating more apathy and depressing engagement. It's a very clear pattern with obvious results so I don't see how it isn't a conscious effort.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Maybe because there’s no warning and instead it sounds like you’re repeating “Biden sucks” and “democrats suck” over and over.

Like another comment said you offer no solutions or any alternative to shitting on democrats… which isn’t going to help the issue at hand if you are to be taken seriously.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (24 children)

Bro your stuff's gotta be more subtle than this at this point

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Surrounded by protective aides who want to minimize the chances of a flub, the 81-year-old president has chafed at restraints that he sees as counter to his natural instincts as a retail politician, a third person familiar with internal discussions said.

He has felt cocooned at times and has been eager to get out more, meet voters face-to-face and take the fight directly to Trump, said the third person and a fourth also familiar with the matter who, like others, spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss campaign strategy and the president’s private views.

Fucking idiot consultants... precisely what Biden needs to do is get out and talk to more people in intimate settings.

Yea, he's old... and that's a flaw for him. If he talks to people directly and cultivates the "sharp grandpa" image it'll be extremely helpful for him.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

The state of the union proved he is right. Completely destroyed the GOP narrative and put out a ton of info that most people support.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They don't want him to look like a "confused grandpa" but I think you're right that he needs to get out there more. Flubs and all. Joe needs to get out there and fight like a wolverine. By them keeping him "on a leash" he looks weak and voters see through it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Yea, if they keep him locked in the basement people just assume the worst - they assume all the right wing bullshit is true and he's locked away out of shame.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Yeah I'm pretty angry and anxious too. Angry that a person like Donald Trump could outdraw Vermin Supreme.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

C'mon you horses! RACE gol darnya

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

Looking to reach distracted voters who may be tuning in, he told his speechwriters before the State of the Union address to tone down some of the lofty rhetoric and plainly lay out what he’s done, a person familiar with speech preparations said.

Surrounded by protective aides who want to minimize the chances of a flub, the 81-year-old president has chafed at restraints that he sees as counter to his natural instincts as a retail politician, a third person familiar with internal discussions said.

He has felt cocooned at times and has been eager to get out more, meet voters face-to-face and take the fight directly to Trump, said the third person and a fourth also familiar with the matter who, like others, spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss campaign strategy and the president’s private views.

And yet the White House is sufficiently worried about him tripping that he has taken to boarding Air Force One via a shorter staircase through the belly of the plane, forgoing the iconic image of the president waving from the main doorway high above the tarmac.

Asked about Biden’s inability to get credit for legislation meant to revive American high-tech manufacturing and upgrade the country’s roads and bridges, she said: “I think it’s actually a bit of a failure of communication on the part of the White House.”

Nearly $4 billion in clean energy projects are underway in Louisiana under a bill that Biden ushered into law called the Inflation Reduction Act, a title that doesn’t capture the measure’s real purpose.

The original article contains 1,276 words, the summary contains 258 words. Saved 80%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Cut off Israel

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Stop making this an election issue. Both sides support Israel, so it's a moot point. All you're gonna do is get Trump elected, ensuring the complete destruction of Palestine.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The issue is being used against Biden though, and not just by Trump pushers. So probably can't get around it being an election issue

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

I hope you guys are ready for another 4 years of Trump, and the complete annihilation of Palestine once he's in power. That's all those people are going to cause

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

But IMO it’s a reason why he’s frustrated. I don’t want trump at all. I hate him with all my being. But you can’t ignore an issue like it’s not either

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I'm saying the issue needs to be dealt with at a different level or after Biden wins. Throwing the election to Trump to "teach Biden a lesson" is just shooting yourselves in the chest

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It already is an election issue regardless of how you personally feel. While both PARTIES may support Israel, a large percentage of Democratic votes DO NOT. Therefore, it is defacto an election issue.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Sounds like a party primary issue, not a federal election issue.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Cutting off Israel is the first step. Arming Palestine is the next.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Will never happen. The Israeli lobby is too powerful and there's nothing close to replacing it.

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