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I’m going to be straight up honest and say that it’s been long enough since I watched the episode that I forgot McCoy’s revelations at the end of the episode. The part that stands out to me in that scene is Spock mind melding Kirk so he forgets he fell in love with a robot.

It certainly does throw a wrinkle into my theory.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

It is wild to see the entitlement of some segments of the fanbase. These people would shit and piss their pants if they were comic book fans.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

Man, it must be exhausting being actively tedious about a television show that isn’t even being made any more.

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While I personally have no interest in watching a youtube show for three year olds, as a new uncle, I hope the show will be a good entry point into the franchise for my niblings once they’re old enough to get something out of it.

As for a cooking show, don’t threaten me with a good time. Let’s see Latinum Chef Romulus’ reaction when the challenge ingredient is leola root.

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In "Requiem for Methuselah" Kirk and Spock encounter a human man calling himself Flint, whom they learn was more than 6,000 years old, and over the course of history was also Soloman, Alexander the Great, Lazarus, Merlin, Leonardo da Vinci, and Johann Brahms.

Then, in "The Broken Circle", Pelia becomes chief engineer of the Enterprise and we're told she's a Lanthanite, and extremely long lived species who resided on Earth, living among humans. She claimed to be at least 5,000 years old herself in "The Sehlat Who Ate Its Tail".

I think it's a reasonable possibility that Flint was a Lanthanite himself, or perhaps part Lanthanite, without being aware of the fact. That would account for his long lifespan.

Granted, we don't actually know how long Lanthanites have been living on Earth. At least since the 1980s, but that's as far back as Pelia has mentioned. Also, if Flint's stories are accurate he is highly resistant to physical damage, having recovered from being stabbed in the heart. Pelia isn't affected by LSD or Chapel's epigenetic serums, but we've never seen her be physically attacked. Also, in "Requiem for Methuselah" Spock makes no mention of Lanthanites. Obviously from a real world perspective, it's because they didn't exist until season two of SNW, but in universe he is certainly aware of their existence, so we might extrapolate that, for whatever reason, he doesn't believe Flint is a Lanthanite.

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The first two episodes are already available on youtube. From what I understand they’re very short, like 3 or 4 minutes each.

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How dare they?

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Sometimes I hurt myself to to make sure I’m still capable of feeling anything at all.

Also, Info genuinely think that stardates are an interesting solution to a problem I’m not sure actually existed.

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• The sehlat referenced in the episode title is an animal native to Vulcan, first mentioned in “Journey to Babel” where we learned that as a child, Spock had one as a pet. The first time one was on screen was “Yesteryear”.

• Kirk opens his first officer’s log with, ”Stardate…what is a stardate?” On this show? Please do not get my started. However, stardates have been part of Trek since the show’s second pilot, “Where No Man Has Gone Before”.

    • A memo provided to writers on TOS stated that, stardates were to obfuscate what century TOS was taking place in, and stated that Stardates were unique to their point in the galaxy, so they didn’t to follow from one episode to the next.

    • For TOS, TAS, the TOS movies, and SNW, stardates generally all follow the system set up for TOS, wherein there are four digits and a single digit percentage point following a decimal; the percentage point divides the day into tenths. SNW has had some variations, including having two numbers following the decimal, and once even using the Kelvin timeline method of calculating stardates.

    • DIS used the same four digits and a percentage point of the other 23rd century shows, except it’s numbers only ever increased. And upon transitioning to the 32nd century for season three on, they used six digits and a percentage point. On the whole though, Stardates were relatively rare in the series.

    • TNG, DS9, and VOY used a system introduced in TNG, where stardates began with 4, indicating they were set in the 24th century, followed by the corresponding season of TNG -- i.e. all the TNG season three stardates begin with 43 -- and then three random numbers, and another digit fallowing a decimal place. Sometimes within a season the number would decrease.

      • An obvious issue is that TNG, DS9, and VOY collectively ran for 14 years, from 1987 to 2001. The DS9 season five and VOY season three both had stardates beginning with 50, which would indicate they were in the 25 century, despite it being 2373.

    • The Kelvin universe stardates are just the year according to the Gregorian calendar, followed by the date expressed as the number of days in the year. So, 2009’s “Star Trek” was set in 2258, January 1 would be 2258.1, and December 31 would be 2258.365. Presumably.

    • PIC seasons one and two did not use stardates because showrunner, Michael Chabon, was not a fan. Season three did include stardates for two episodes, both of which began with 78, presumably indicating that they continued counting from the TNG, DS9, VOY seasons to reach that for the number of in universe years that had passed.

    • According to LDS co-producer, Brad Winters, LDS and PRO used a “unified stardate theory” devised by Trek science consultant, Doctor Erin MacDonald. LDS began with stardates starting with 57, in season one, but did not follow the one year per season convention that was used for TNG, DS9, and VOY.

    • So, to answer the question posed by Kirk in his log, stardates are a headache.

• Kirk’s log continues by complaining that he’s bored with the mundanity of space exploration. Kelvin Captain Kirk’s log at the beginning of “Star Trek Beyond” had a similar complaint.

• The USS Farragut’s interiors are reused USS Enterprise sets with little redress beyond the battle damage. We see the bridge, the captain’s ready room, and sickbay. Despite Scotty being dispatched to engineering, it does not show up on screen. In fact, we have yet to see the engineering set for the Enterprise this season, either.

    • The Farragut bridge lighting is more white than the Enterprise, and obviously the displays are off the ‘Farragut’.

• The * Farragut* is captained by a Vulcan named V’Rel. The first captain Kirk served under aboard the Farragut was Garrovik, though he would have died in 2257, four years earlier, as per the TOS episode, “Obsession”.

”Risk is why we’re here, isn’t it?” This line from Kirk’s speech in “Return to Tomorrow”, ”Risk is our business.”

• Chapel, Uhura, Spock, and Scotty all beam over to the Farragut, which is notable as they’re all future members of Kirk’s crew aboard the Enterprise during TOS. The obvious exception in the group is La’An, whom there has been some foreshadowing of a romantic involvement with Kirk, specifically in “Subspace Rhapsody”, and he will no doubt ghost her for a three breasted purple woman at some point, hence the reason she does not continue to serve aboard the ship. Or she’ll live(?) up to her red shirt reputation by the series end.

• The Destroyer of Worlds is designed with a mouth, and swallows the Enterrise whole. Other times the hero ship has has been fully engulfed by another ship include:

    • In “Distant Origin” the Voth beamed the USS Voyager into their city ship

    • In “Endgame”, a Borg sphere captured the Voyager, though it was all part of the plan

    • In “The Crossing” the Wisps disabled the NX-01, and brought it into their ship

    • In “Countdown” and “Zero Hour” Xindi-Aquatic ships were used to transport the NX-01

    • In “That Hope is You, Part 2” the Viridian tractored the USS Discovery A aboard

    • In “Let Sleeping Borg Lie” the Protogies flew the USS Protostar into a dormant Borg cube

    • in “The Last Generation”, Data flew the USS Enterprise D/USS Syracuse through a massive Borg cube

• The Destroyer of Worlds is made up of a variety of other cultures ships, including Klingon. In “Samaritan Snare” we were introduced to the Pakleds who lured more advanced species in and stole their technology. We eventually saw Pakled Clumpships in LDS’ “No Small Parts” with a breakdown of all the species’ components.

    • Scotty and Spock make note that one of the other ships is a D7-class Klingon ship. The D7-class would only be about four years old at this point, the design having been finalized in “Point of Light” and the first completed vessel being seen in “Through the Valley of Shadows”.

      • This assumes we ignore the Klingon Sech-class cruiser in being referred to as a D7 by a shuffleboard computer in “Choose Your Pain”, but that was also quite clearly a different spaceframe.

• We learn that the Destroyer of Worlds is something of a local legend, known to remote colonies, as well as other species, including the Klingons and the Gorn. The Klingons call it the Chack-Ka, or Annihilator. In “Where Silence Has Lease”, Worf shared that there was a Klingon legend about ”a gigantic black space creature which was said to devour entire vessels.” We have no indication if the Destroyer of Worlds was the inspiration for that legend, but it’s a neat idea.

• Captain V’Rel has a three-dimensional chess board in her ready room. Kirk and Spock were first seen playing three-dimensional chess in the second TOS pilot, “Where No Man Has Gone Before”.

    • The board appears to be the one sold by The Nobel Collection with a custom stand, as previously seen in “Lost in Translation” but with custom pieces as well.

”Those are the signatures from the picked-apart alien ships we saw in Nessie’s gob.” Scotty also made reference to the Loch Ness Monster in the TAS episode, “Bem”. Nessie’s only other mention was in ENT episode, “Stormfront, Part II”.

• Scotty appears unclear on what to call Kirk while he’s acting Captain. In “Behind the Lines” O’Brien explained to Nog that it is an old naval tradition that whomever is in charge of a ship is referred to as captain, regardless of rank. Presumably Scotty skipped that day.

• Pelia implies she is at least 5,000 years old. Previously she’d indicated she was at least 3,000 years old.

• This is the first time there’s been any indication that Starfleet vessels use copper wiring in their consoles, a fact that is necessary for Pelia’s plan in the episode to work. Her plan is:

    • Strip the copper cables out of the bulkheads

    • Collect all the catalytic converters from the shuttles in the shuttle bay

    • Raid sickbay’s supply of sudafed

• Kirk informs Scotty that the Destroyer of Worlds was harvesting aldentium from the world it destroyed. In “Family”, Data described aldentium as a mineral that is ”firm and chewy, but with a slight resistance to the bite.”

• Pelia’s quarters are full of enough junk that Kivas Fagio would have heart palpitations looking at it. We saw in “Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow” that she was transferring a significant amount of personal affects to the ship. Here we see:

    • An Atari video game system, which is kind of like the titular game from “The Game” but more addicting.

    • ”This is a, uh…personal massager?” Oretegas confirms that vibrators still exist in the 23rd century.

• Pike and La’An come up with the idea to fill the umbilical stealing resources from the Enterprise with baryon particles from the waste system. We learned in “Starship Mine” that baryons are accumulated during warp travel, and need to be eliminated as part of starship maintenance.

• Kirk’s plan uses the Farragut’s now useless warp nacelles as improvised missles, causing the Destroyer of Worlds to disable itself with it’s own grappler cables attempting to catch them. The first time we saw Kirk order Scotty to detach the nacelles of the Enterprise was in “The Apple”.

• The waste tank La’An has the baryon particles in is cylindrical with a handle on one side, very similar to the holodeck biofiler waste tanks seen in “Moist Vessel”.

• We learn that once again the greatest monster is man! The core of the Destroyer of Worlds is the XCV-100, an Earth ship lunched in the 21st century, after World War III. The ship bears the flag of the United States, as well as a blue Starfleet delta with the United Earth symbol on it, a logo also seen on the Friendship 1 in “Friendship One”. This would be the earliest vessel to bear a delta, so far.

    • Other Earth ships that vanished include:

      • The Ares IV - “One Small Step”

      • The Bonaventure - “The Time Trap”

      • The USS Franklin - “Star Trek Beyond”

    • The ship was meant to carry humanity to the stars, and was presumably conceived of by billionaires attempting to escape the mess they made of Earth. Pelia claims ”they were the best of us,” which explains the distinctive red cap among the junk in her quarters.

• Data served Scotty Aldeberan whiskey in “Relics”.

• The episode ends with strains for the TOS theme playing after Pike calls Kirk “Captain Kirk.”

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• Ensign Gamble records the stardate as 2184.4 in his junior medical officer’s log. Which, of course, would predate the previous log entries this season, if stardates progressed through increasingly larger numbers, as they do in every series in this franchise other than TOS, and TAS.

Episode Stardate
“Hegemony, Part II” None given
“Wedding Bell Blues” 2251.7
“Shuttle to Kenfori” 2449.1
“A Space Adventure Hour” None given

    • Gamble says he has been stationed on the USS Enterprise for six months. In “Wedding Bell Blues”, when Gamble is introduced, it was established that he was a temporary replacement for nurse Chapel, and that she had been off the ship for three months, indicating that at least three months has passed between that episode and this one.

• Gamble comments that Korby is working on ”corporeal transference.” In “What Are Little Girls Made Of?” Korby will have transferred his own consciousness and that of his associate, Brown, into android bodies.

”She is an excellent dance instructor.” La’An was teaching Spock how to dance in preparation for his reunion with Chapel in “Wedding Bell Blues”, but it seems as though as of the end of “A Space Adventure Hour”, the lessons have progressed from tango to horizontal mambo.

• The Vadia IX magnetic anomaly is located at the Lafarge Quarry. On the other side of the ridge you’ll find:

    • The camp of rebels against the Terran Empire - “The Wolf Inside”

    • Talosians - “Light and Shadows”, “If Memory Serves”

    • Some Trill itronok - “Jinaal”

• Berto Ortegas is aboard the Enterprise as a documentarian. The LDS episode, “Trusted Sources”, featured an FNN reporter documenting the missions of the USS Cerritos.

• Chapel and Korby speculate that the M’Kroon are descendants of an ancient civilization that achieved immortality. Star Trek is lousy with powerful ancient civilizations that, for whatever reason, are no longer present to exert their direct influence on the galaxy, including:

    • The T’Kon Empire - “The Last Outpost”

    • The Iconian Empire - “Contagion”

    • The Progenitors - “The Chase”, DIS season 5

    • The D’Arsay - “Masks”, “Room for Growth”

• Doctor M’Benga declares that his scans find Gamble to be brain dead. Other people who’ve been brain dead include Chakotay in “Cathexis” and Rick Berman for most of his career.

”This thing…is older than anything I’ve ever seen.” Pelia is of a long lived species, Lanthanites, and has been alive since at least the 6th century BCE.

• Spock uses a set of alien goggles to view the well of Vezda orbs. One of the orbs floats up, and a toothy monster inside the sparkling light snarls at him, not unlike the crew of the USS Yosemite who’d been transformed into transporter snakes and assaulted Barclay in “Realm of Fear”.

• Gamble has been possessed by one of the Vezda entities. Other characters who’ve been possessed by malevolent entities include:

    • In “Wolf In the Fold” Scotty was briefly possessed by Jack the Ripper

    • In “Clues” Troi was possessed by a Paxan

    • In “Power Play”, Data, Troi, and O’Brien were possessed by non-corporeal prisoners

    • In “Masks” Data was possessed by several figures from D’Arsay myth

    • In “Cathexis” Tuvok was possessed by a Komar

    • In “The Reckoning” Jake Sisko was possessed by the Kosst Amojan Pah-wraith.

• Vezda Gambel references Rukiya Doctor M’Benga’s terminally ill daughter whom he kept in a transporter buffer for the first half of season one, let go of so she could join with a sentient nebula in “The Elysian Kingdom”, and promptly forgot about until now.

• Captain Batel, who is presumably now a Gorn hybrid after her treatment following “Shuttle to Kenfori”, recognizes the entity in Gamble, and the pair fight in sickbay. It is unclear where Batel got the large boulder she throws at Vezda Gamble like the Gorn in “Arena”, but we did learn in “Strange Energies” that Starfleet does have medical boulders.

• La’An voices suspicion that the ancient site might be a prison to house the Vezdas. In “Power Play” the entities that possessed Data, Ro, and O’Brien were prisoners whose consciousness was separated from their bodies and trapped in a magnetic storm.

”Curiouser and curiouser” Spock quotes “Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland”, a book Amanda Greyson would read to him and Michael Burnham when they were children, as per “Once Upon a Planet” and “Context is for Kings”.

• Scotty traps the Vezda after it escapes Gamble’s corpse, and stores it in the transporter buffer. In “Wolf In the Fold” Spock scattered the Jack the Ripper entity across deep space with the transporter.

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• This episode was directed by Johnathan Frakes, the actor who portrayed Thomas Riker in “Second Chances” and “Defiant”

    • Frakes also plays the director of the fictional television show, “The Lost Frontier” that exists within the re-creation room simulation.

• Obviously “The Lost Frontier” is a pastiche of TOS

    • The title, “The Lost Frontier” is a reference to ”the final frontier,” mentioned in the introductory monologue spoken by Captain Kirk during the opening sequence of every episode.

    • The lighting aboard the *USS Adventure” is heavy on the greens and purples, mimicking the lighting of TOS.

    • Some of the music cues are lifted directly from TOS.

    • Just as TOS had Kirk, Spock, and McCoy as its main cast trio, the only protagonists we see on “The Lost Frontier” are the captain, the first officer, and the doctor.

    • The plot of the episode, involves the Agonyan empire stealing the brain cells of the Adventures’ human crew, which is similar to the plot of “Spock’s Brain” where aliens stole Spock’s brain. Additionally, being robbed of their brain cells afflicts the characters with melancholia, a condition that seems to remove their joie de vivre; similar to the passive Kirk lacking any drive or motivation in “The Enemy Within”.

    • The episode’s opening sequence has been replaced with the sequence for “The Lost Frontier”, which is also a send-up of TOS’s opening, including its own version of the captain’s monologue.

• The Agonyan Zipnop is played by Kira Guloien, who previously played the Edosian bartender in “Wedding Bell Blues”.

”Now, the device we’re going to be testing is called the…re-creation room?” In “The Practical Joker”, M’Ress pronounces it ”recreation room* as in used for recreational activities.

    • ”Holodeck, for short.” In “The Practical Joker”, they call it the ”rec room,” even in the signage, which is even shorter, and derived from the thing’s apparently official name.

    • The holodeck was first seen in the TNG series premiere, “Encounter at Farpoint”.

• La’An asks of the re-creation room is based on battle simulators; we presumably saw a battle simulator in the Disco episode, “Lethe”, when the episode opened with Captain Lorca and Ash Tyler running a simulated combat against holographic Klingons, and a certain segment of the viewers decided to be real normal about a holodeck existing before TNG.

    • La’An claims that battle simulators are usually on starbases due to the massive energy and computing requirements, but I think we can agree that the USS Discovery could have been one of those implied exceptions, seeing as Lorca likely just yelled at the admiralty that he’s trying to win a war until they agreed to install one on his ship.

      • In “Unexpected” we saw that the Xyrillians had holographic simulators that impressed Trip, even aboard a ship significantly smaller than the NX-01, and it is implied that the technology would work aboard the Klingon battle-cruiser in the episode as well.

”It’s the kind of thing I’d do all the time when I was a test pilot.” Pike loves bringing up that he used to be a test pilot. He’s mentioned it in “Light and Shadows”, and “Among the Lotus Eaters”, and confirmed that he was one in “Hegemony”.

• La’An explains to Scotty that she wants her program to be inspired by the stories of Amelia Moon, a fictional detective. Captain Picard’s own holodeck adventures also cast him in the role of a fictional detective, Dixon hill. Specifically in: “The Big Goodbye”, “Manhunt”, “Clues”, and “Star Trek: First Contact”. And, of course, Data takes on the role of Sherlock Holmes in “Elementary, Dear Data”.

• La’An says it was the captain of the ship who rescued her from the Gorn breeding planet that introduced her to the character of Amelia Moon; we learned in “Strange New Worlds” that it was the USS Martin Luthor King Jr. that rescued her.

• To populate the re-creation room -- and give the principle actors something to do in this episode - Scotty needed to use the high resolution scans of individuals from the transporter’s pattern buffer. In “Our Man, Bashir”, the characters in Doctor Bashir’s spy adventure holosuite program have their likeness replaced by those of the senior staff after Eddington and Odo need to upload their transporter patterns into the station’s computers. And, in “A Fistful of Datas”, all the characters in Worf and Alexander’s old west program are overwritten to have Data’s face and skintone.

• Uh oh! La’An committed the mistake Geordi made in “Elementary, Dear Data” by requesting the computer ”create a new mystery that [La’An] will find challenging to solve.” Geordi prompted the computer to, ”Create an adversary capable of defeating Data/”

• The re-creation room is a re-creation of the holodeck as seen on TNG, with black walls lined with a yellow grid. When not active, the rec room seen on TAS was a large, empty, grey room.

”I can practically smell the ocean and the cigarettes.” La’An implies that the re-creation room doesn’t include scents in its simulation. In “The Big Goodbye”, Picard was very impressed with the newly upgraded holodeck’s verisimilitude, including smells.

    • in “Unexpected”, Trip claimed he could smell the ocean in the Xyrillian holographic simulator.

    • In “Encounter at Farpoint” Data explains to Riker that the holodeck functions by using light and forcefields in conjunction with the replicators to actually physically manifest some of the scenery, such as trees. Here, Scotty says everything is down with holograms and tractor beams.

”As my ancestor, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, would write, ‘The game is a afoot.’” It was implied that Spock was a descendant of Doyle in “Star Trek: The Undiscovered Country” when he attributed another of Sherlock Holmes’ quotes to his ancestor, but this confirmation that’s the case. Assuming we’re to believe a holographic re-creation of Spock created by the computer to foil La’An.

• We’re introduced to the dramatis personae of La’An’s re-creation room adventure:

    • Joni Gloss, who has Uhura’s likeness

    • TK Bellows, who has Pike’s likeness

      • Bellows is the creator of “The Last Frontier. His soft spoken mannerisms and womanizing might have been inspired by Gene Roddenberry, though his appearance looks to be based on Isaac Asimov, and his willingness to threaten people with a gun could have been taken from the writer of the TOS episode “The City on the Edge of Forever”. The alcoholism might have been lifted from all science fiction writers. Except Harlan Ellison.

    • Sunny Lupino, who has Number One’s likeness

      • Sunny is a former actor turned producer who we’ll learn was largely responsible for keeping “The Last Frontier” afloat, at her own personal expense, much like Lucille Ball did for TOS. Her name is almost certainly inspired by Ida Lupino, who was also an actor who became a producer later in life. Sunny’s might also have been inspired by Jessica Tandy, who was a model until appearing in “The Birds”. Sunny claims, ”Until I convinced Alfred to put me in ‘The Crows’ I was just another pair of lips.”

    • Adelaide Shaw, who has Chapel’s likeness

      • Adelaide plays the first officer on “The Last Frontier” just as Majel Barrett played Number One in the original Star Trek pilot, “The Cage”. Jess Bush gets to use her actual accent to play the character.

    • Maxwell Saint, who has James Kirk’s likeness, which raises the question of how long they keep the high rise transporter scans of individuals.

      • Saint is the captain on “The Last Frontier”, and Paul Wesley is leaning very heavily into a William Shatner impersonation, which stands in stark contrast to how he actually plays Kirk.

    • Lee Woods, who has Ortegas’ likeness

      • Woods portrays the doctor on “The Last Frontier”, like DeForest Kelly, Woods is a fan of the western. Also, DeForest…Lee Woods…get it?

    • Anthony McBeau, who has Doctor M’Benga’s likeness

”You know I’m an actor, not a doctor, right?” Lee Forest gets to say the inverse of Bones famous recurring line, first used in “The Devil in the Dark”.

• Number One suggested Pike reinstate Ortegas to active duty, which certainly doesn’t render taking Ortegas off active duty in the previous episode moot.

• TK Bellows claims, ”Our fanbase is small, but it's quite passionate.” When it was rumoured that TOS was going to be cancelled after the second season, Gene Roddenberry secretly funded a letter writing campaign that is attributed with saving the show for a third season

• La’An speculates that Lee Woods is the murderer, believing Tony Hart stole a script she wrote and was going to credit someone else, ”Probably a man because that happened all the time back then.” In “Far Beyond the Stars” 1950s science fiction writer Kay Eaton had to use a male pen name and not appear in promotional photos for the magazine she worked for to be able to continue to get work.

• Not being able to end the program is a common trope of holodeck episodes. See: Most holodeck episodes.

”You know what’s not realistic? A lady first officer.” Apparently Maxwell Saint agrees with the suits at NBC who rejected the first TOS pilot.

• Pike is clearly uncomfortable with the idea of a re-creation room being a fixture on Starfleet ships. In “An Obal for Charon” Pike claims that he never liked the holographic communication system because it reminded him too much of ghosts.

• Scotty recommends that if re-creation rooms are to be installed in Starfleet ships they should have independent power and processing.

    • In “The Practical Joker” the rec room is affected by the same computer virus as the rest of the ship, and in both “Elementary, My Dear Data” and “The Nth Degree”, the ship is able to be controlled to some degree from the holodeck.

    • The USS Voyager and the USS Titan-A both have independent power sources, as established in “Parallax” and “No Win Scenario” respectively. The USS Enterprise D did not, a plot point in “Booby Trap” and Voyager eventually has the holodeck integrated into the rest of the ship’s power grid, which is alluded to in “Night”.

• Number One informs Scotty that there are 203 crew on the Enterprise. That number was established in “The Menagerie, Part 1” and remained true for “Brother”, and “All Those Who Wander”, though in “Subscape Rhapsody” Spock implied there were only 200 crew on the ship.

• La’An and Spock seemingly begin a relationship. in “Charlie X” Uhura sings a song about how Spock is a heartbreaker; how many ”female astronuats” will she watch him run through?

• The episode ends with a “The Last Frontier” blooper reel.

    • The director’s voice is clearly that of Johnathan Frakes, which, considering Scotty had to use transporter scans for the characters in the program would imply that serving somewhere aboard the Enterprise is a descendant of the NX-01’s Chef.

• Maxwell Saint attempts to perform the Riker maneuver over the captain’s chair, with disastrous results.


• Bonus! Clues that Spock was a re-creation before the actual reveal:

    • Scotty shows La’an a pad with the pattern buffer likenesses, and Spock is there, and is the only one of the eight to not have a character in the narrative.

    • Spock is in the re-creation room when La’An enters.

    • Scotty tells La’An that the holodeck is drawing more processing power than expected, and it’s because it also simulating Spock.

    • Saint asks Spock if he was the one to kill Tony and Sunny Lupino

    • When he goes to Uhura for advice, Scotty only mentions that La’An is trapped in the re-creation room, not Spock.

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• The episode title, “Shuttle to Kenfori”, is a reference to the South Korean zombie film, “Train to Busan”, and the planet’s Kenfori was named for Ken Foree who played Peter in the original “Dawn of the Dead” film.

• Pike records the stardate as 2449.1 in his personal log.

    • This actually follows the previous episode, “Wedding Bell Blues”’ given stardate of 2251.7 in a way that makes sense. Is our long galactic SNW stardates nightmare finally come to an end?

• Pike refers to the “restricted zone” between Federation and Klingon territories following the war depicted in season one of DIS, and Number One calls it a ”buffer zone”. The term ”neutral zone” was not used to refer to the Federation-Klingon border until “Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan”.

”He never gets caught.” “I never get caught.” In “The Elysian Kingdom” Doctor M’Benga was fully possessed of his faculties when he was betrayed by Spock as the sorcerer Pollux, and captured and imprisoned by Uhura’s Queen Neve.

• Number One is certainly trying something with her hair this episode. Apparently one of the abilities granted by the Illyrian genetic augmentation revealed in “Ghosts of Illyria” was foresight to know when the grav plating will be disabled and to prepare accordingly to cut down on filming costs.

    • Similarly La’an’s ponytail is up, and apparently Mitchell took the day off from tactical.

• Pike and Doctor M’Benga reminisce about the time they smoked Vedalan cigars and M’Benga became sick. Assuming that Vendalan refers to the same species, in “The Jihad” it is stated that the Vendala are the oldest known spacefaring race, so apparently smoking isn’t actually that bad for you.

• We’ve seen Starfleet ships leave plenty of warning buoy to ward off ships from encountering the hazards of exploration, such as telepathic pitcher plants, or Armus, but this is the first time we’ve seen a Klingon warning beacon.

    • The Klingon alphabet used for the warning beacon’s graphic is the one created for the “USS Enterprise Officer’s Manual” fan publication, published in 1980.

    • The text of the beacon translates literally to ”Don’t dead open inside.”

”What do you think about this whole Korby-Christine thing?” In referring to the revelations of “Wedding Bell Blues”, Pike establishes that much like Captain Picard, he too enjoys his tea hot.

• The Klingon skeleton has a honeycombed ribcage, matching the anatomy diagram displayed on a screen in “Affliction”.

• The Klingon fighter craft is a raider, introduced in “Choose Your Pain”.

• I believe this is the first time a Klingon scanning device has been referred to as a tricorder on screen.

• The disruptor rifles the Klingon hunting party are weilding were first seen in “Context is for Kings”, but Bytha’s pistol appears to be new design similar to the Klingon pistols introduced in “Star Trek: The Search for Spock”.

• Pike says the Klingons are, ”chasing [them] like Skral rabbits.” There is a Skral river on Qo’noS as per “Barge of the Dead”.

• Spock offers to mind meld with Captain Batel to help guide her through the pain she’s suffering. In “Dagger of the Mind” Spock informs Bones that he’s never performed a mind meld on a human before.

• Spock briefly experiences Gorn vision, which has a hex gird, recalling the compound eyes of the TOS Gorn. Of course, SNW Gorn do not have the same compound eyes of the TOS iteration.

    • Gorn vision also highlights the critical hit points on enemies.

• Pike refers to the chimera moss infected humans and Klingons as ”zombies,” much to Doctor M’Benga’s chagrin. in “Star Trek: First Contact”, Lily Sloane called the Borg ”bionic zombies.”

    • The Vulcans exposed to trellium-d in “Impulse” were referred to as zombies in the script, but not in the episode itself.

• Pike comes to the realization that the chimera plant is going cause Batel to become a hybrid with the Gorn genetics infecting her body. Like a chimera! In “Tuvix” a Delta Quadrant Orchid created a hybrid of Tuvok and Neelix, and that was the most controversial thing that happened in the episode.

• At Doctor M’Benga’s suggestion, Pike overloads the charging coil on his phaser, creating a small explosion that stuns some of the mossmen. In “The Conscience of the King” Kirk has to eject an overloading phaser off the USS Enterprise before it explodes, because it could take out an entire deck of the ship.

• The dagger Bytha stabs Pike with is a d’k tahg, the first of which was seen in “Star Trek: The Search for Spock”. Fortunately for Pike, he does not meet the same fate as David Marcus.

• Bytha states that she had a Rongovian tag Doctor M’Benga with a viridium tracker, but having it put in his drink’s garnish. We saw a Rongovian introduce himself to M’Benga in “Wedding Bell Blues”.

    • Spock used a viridium patch to track Kirk and Bones in “Star Trek: The Undiscovered Country”. Additionally, we learned n “Napenthe” Commandant Oh had Doctor Jurati swallow a viridium tracker so she could be traced.

• Bytha introduces herself as the daughter of Dak’Rah, whom Doctor M’Benga killed in a scuffle in “Under the Cloak of War”.

    • Following his defection to the Federation, we learn House Rah’Ul has suffered discommendation. Worf accepted discommendation for the House of Mogh in “Sins of the Father”, and Quark was able to demonstrate that D’Ghor used accounting to undermine a rival house, leading to the House of D’Ghor to receive discommendation in “The House of Quark”.

• The Klingon starship is a D7-class battlecruiser; this CGI model appears to be identical to the ones previously shown in SNW, starting with “The Broken Circle”, which was an update of the one introduced in DIS’ “Through the Valley of Shadows”.

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• As the episode opens, we see DOT-7 robots repairing the hull of the USS Enterprise; this is the first we’ve seen the DOTs on SNW, though the “Ask Not” short did show that the Enterprise was equipped with them.

• Spock records the stardate as 2251.7 in his personal log.

    • Spock states that it is three months following the events of “Hegemony, Part II” which was a continuation of the events of “Hegemony”, and that was stardate 2344.2, so the SNW stardate madness would seem to continue.

    • At the beginning of the episode, it is three days until the 100th anniversary of the founding of the Federation.

• In stationkeeping at Starbase One, we see:

    • A vessel of the same spaceframe as the USS Archer, seen in “Strange New Worlds”

    • A spaceframe inspired the Larson-class destroyer from the “Demand of Honor” module published by FASA for their “Star Trek: The Roleplaying Game” in 1984.

    • A Nimitz-class starship with updated nacelles, first seen in “Battle at the Binary Stars”

    • A Malachowski-class starship with updated nacelles, first seen in “Battle at the Binary Stars”

    • A vessel of the same spaceframe as the USS Kelcie Mae, seen in “Under the Cloak of War”

    • A vessel of the same spaceframe as the USS Hiawatha, seen in “Brother”

    • A Bellerophon-class starship, first seen in “A Quality of Mercy”

    • A Shepherd-class starship with updated nacelles, first seen in “Battle at the Binary Stars”

• La’an is teaching Spock to dance, recalling the scene from “Data’s Day” where Doctor Crusher teaches Data how to dance. Both are too stiff.

”Perhaps that is why Vulcans, as a rule, do not dance.” Tuvok insisted ”Vulcans do not dance” in “Homestead” before performing a small dance later in the episode.

    • In “Whom Gods Destroy” Spock stated that Vulcan children do dance in nursery school.

    • In “Fusion” Kov claimed that Vulcans dance, “Only when it’s part of some tedious ceremony.”*

• Scotty is still aboard the Enterprise and he arrives to operate the transporter. Scotty was frequently in charge of the transporter in TOS, and though it has yet to be said on screen, the phrase, ”Beam me up, Scotty,” is an intrinsic part of Trek pop culture.

• This is the first we’ve seen La’an wearing the skant style uniform.

• It’s Doctor Roger Korby! From Star Trek! Except this would be the first actual appearance of Korby, as the Roger Korby seen in “What Are Little Girls Made Of?” was an android whom the original Korby transferred his consciousness into to save his own life, but removed all his human flaws.

    • Apparently Korby also removed his accent during the transfer, and somehow Chapel did not notice. Granted, she will have also lost all semblance of a personality by that point.

• We learn that Korby has published 234 papers on archeological medicine. In “What Are Little Girls Made Of?” Spock states that Korby was ”often called the Pasteur of archeological medicine.”

• Spock is surprised to learn that Korby is there as Chapel’s date, but from “What Are Little Girls Made Of?”, we know that when he goes missing, presumably later this same year, Korby and Chapel will be engaged to be married.

• Pike claims he doesn’t know what all the medals he has are for. In “Choose Your Pain” Pike was included in a list of five of Starfleet’s most decorated officers, when we see Pike’s service record in “Brother”, he has 17 different awards listed, including a Cardassian Legate’s Crest of Valor.

• Chapel attempts to return the book that Spock gave her, and he says he still desires for her to have it. In “Star Trek Beyond” Spock told Uhura, ”It is not the Vulcan custom to receive again that which was given as a gift.”

• It’s Trelane! From Star Trek! Maybe! Trelane was originally portrayed by William Campbell in “The Squire of Gothos” and the Wedding Planner is played by Rhys Darby here. Also, we briefly see the Wedding Planner’s Vulcan appearance in a reflection, and for that moment he was portrayed by Myles Dobson who also played a Vulcan waiter in “Strange New Worlds”

    • According to Akiva Goldsman, the character credited as The Wedding Planner is Trelane. Certainly they have similar appearance, including Trelane’s distinctive muttonchops and medals but there are some notable differences as well.

      • In “The Squire of Gothos” Trelane’s appearance, affect, and the home he created on Gothos are implied to be based on the 14th century because Gothos is 900 lightyears away from Earth, and Trelane’s information was based on his observations at the time.

      • Trelane claims he did not believe humans were capable of space travel in “The Squire of Gothos”, again basing his information on observations of Earth 900 years out of date.

      • Trelane’s preoccupation in “The Squire of Gothos” is strictly martial. He claims to be a retired general, and wishes to speak with Kirk about matters of death and war. He views humans as a predator species.

      • In “The Squire of Gothos” Trelane does not recognize Spock, nor does he appear to be familiar with Vulcans, asking Spock if they’re predatory when they first meet.

    • There is a chiming sound effect associated with the Wedding Planner similar to, but not identical to the one used in “The Squire of Gothos” to indicate a usage of Trelane’s powers.

• The Wedding Planner references the Vulcan kal-if-fee, a ritual combat in which the woman who declared the kal-if-fee becomes the property of the victor. This was first seen in “Amok Time”

”Perhaps an improbability field. We once entered one that made us…sing.” Spock is referring to the events of “Subspace Rhapsody”.

• Spock tells Sam that ”No one likes your moustache,” once again demonstrating the common wisdom that Vulcans cannot lie is nonsense.

• Pike claims that one of Spock’s favourite dishes is jumbo mollusk. Spock, like most Vulcans, is depicted as vegetarian, and in “All Our Yesterdays” is upset with himself when he regresses to an earlier point in Vulcan evolution and consumes animal flesh.

”Honestly, I’m not really much of a drinker.” By the time of TOS, Scotty is practically a functioning alcoholic who was tasked with drinking an alien cosmic horror under the table in “By Any Other Name”.

• The morning of the wedding the Wedding Planner is in the bed beside Spock, recalling the time Captain Picard woke up next to Q in “Tapestry”.

He says if I don’t play along, he’s going to wish us all into a cornfield.” Korby alludes to “The Twilight Zone” episode, “It’s a Good Life”.Trip mentioned “The Twilight Zone” in “Carbon Creek”, and two Trek guest stars, Bill Mumy who played Kellin in “The Siege of AR-558” and Don Keefer who played Cromwell in “Assignment Earth” appeared in “It’s A Good Life”.

• We see Scotty wearing a kilt, with the same white and black tartan he was depicted wearing in “Is There In Truth No Beauty?”

• An energy cloud voiced by John de Lancie arrives to the wedding. In “The Squire of Gothos” , timely intervention by Trelane’s parents also interrupted his childish antics.

    • Again, according to Akiva Goldsman, this episode is supposed to make canon the connection between Trelane and the Q Continuum first posited in the novel “Q-Squared” written by Peter David, and published in 1994. And again, there are some issues/

      • If we accept the fact that the Wedding Planner is Trelane, it is uncommon for a Q to be named anything other than Q. Quinn adopted the name to differentiate himself from Q for the sake of the USS Voyager’s crew. Amanda Rogers was raised as a human. Every other member of the Continuum we’ve met has gone by Q, including Q Junior.

      • The Wedding Planner/Trelane is presented as being a child of their or his species. We’re told he’s 8,020 years old, Q Junior had the mannerisms of a teenager at four human years of age.

      • In “The Q and the Grey”, Q claims that he is not cut out for raising a child himself, stating he’s more of ”An ideas man.”

      • We see both Trelane’s parents in “The Squire of Gothos” as energy beings, but in “The Q and the Grey” Q claims that two Q have never mated before.

• The bartender hired for the Federation Day celebration is an Edosian, notable because the species has only previously appeared in animated form, first showing up in the TAS premiere, “Beyond the Farthest Star”.

    • Previous Edosians we’ve seen have had three fingers on each hand, but this individual has very human, five fingered hands.

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Right, but what is the image saying that's false?

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I'm sure that you feel like you're saying something very profound, but for most people that's just gibberish.

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You also violated Starfleet protocols which require us to not interfere with developing cultures.

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Fuck Jackie Marks and the appropriating grift he rode in on.

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”Have you noticed their references are weirdly specific?” Number One is also concerned about my going way over the character limit on this post.”

• Boimler power walks away after being startled by Number One. He claimed that power walking is more efficient in “Envoys”. Apparently Section 31 does it.

• Mariner tells Uhura that while she’s known for being a super-translating space adventurer in the future, part of that reputation is that she’s carefree. In episodes like “Charlie X” and “The Man Trap” we see Uhura singing in the recreation room, and flirting with Spock.

• Mariner performs the Picard Maneuver when standing up.

• On her PADD, Uhura is looking at examples of the Bajoran and Cardassian alphabets, which are labeled as such. This is the first indication that the Federation had made contact with either civilization prior to the TNG era.

     • There is a comatose Cardassian being held by the automated shipyard in “Dead Stop”, but no one actually really sees him.

• Starbase Earhart was first mentioned in “The Samaritan Snare” when Captain Picard tells Wesley the story of his being stabbed through the heart by a Nausican, and we first see the base in “Tapestry” when Q sends Picard’s consciousness back through time to that event.

     • “Tapestry” is also the first mention of dom-jot.

     • Mariner describes dom-jot as “A billiards game that Nausicans are terrible at, but love to bet on for some reason.” We see Mariner playing dom-jot against Nausicans at Starbase Earhart in “We’ll Always Have Tom Paris”.

• Pelia and Boimler share a moment staring at the warp core. Boimler has a long established history of being a fan of warp cores, going back to his first episode, “Second Contact”.

• Pelia’s quote, “I always pretended to be someone I wanted to be, until finally I became that someone…or he became me,”* is paraphrasing Cary Grant.

”Don’t yell Q, they haven’t met him yet.” Q first reveals himself in “Encounter at Farpoint”

     • ”They had kind of a Trelene thing going on.” Trelene appears in “The Squire of Gothos” and, so far no where else.

• The Enterprise crew starts expressing enthusiasm for the past, specifically the NX-01.

     • Pike mentions that he would be excited to set foot on Archer’s Enterprise. In “These Are the Voyages…” we learn that he is the one who wrote the parameters for a popular holo-simulation where the user plays the role of the NX-01’s chef.

     • La’an says she loves grapplers, which first appeared in the ENT premiere, “Broken Bow”.

     • Ortegas claims, ”I’m a huge fan of Travis Mayweather. First pilot of the NX-01*.” Presumably there had to be at least one.

     • Uhura mentions Hoshi Sato having spoken 86 languages. In “Two Days and Two Nights” it’s established that Hoshi learned 38 languages before having left Earth, and that she knows ”about 40” as of that episode.

• I believe this is the first time the Fleet Museum is referred to as the Starfleet History Museum, but both locations have the NX-01, as per “The Bounty”.

• We learn that Number One is featured on a Starfleet recruitment poster, including the words “Ad Astra per Aspera” which was the motto of the United Earth Starfleet and, we learn, of personal importance to Number one in the episode “Ad Astra per Aspera”.

     • The poster featuring Number One was not seen among the recruitment material Mariner and Boimler took when they set up their booth on Tulgana IV in “Reflections”.

• It was established that Tendi is the Mistress of the Winter Constellations in “We’ll Always Have Tom Paris”.

• It’s Jack Ransom! From Star Trek! Ransom is voiced by Jerry O’Connell.

“Oh, Numero Una, hottest first officer in Starfleet history.” Rebecca Romijn and Jerry O’Connell are married.

• Drinking the Orion delaq causes the Enterprise crew to experience visual hallucinations similar to what Mariner, and Boimler went through after being exposed to nitrous oxide in “Room for Growth”. Tendi was immune.

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