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Can’t remember exactly where or about whom I reported but it was to the effect of “someone please kill [this person]” (lemmy.cafe)
submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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Disclaimer: Fuck the rich and please consider reading 1 paragraph before you go to comments to explain how I am a bootlicker. Thank you ٩(•͈ ꇴ •͈)و ̑̑❀

For context, I generally report all calls to violence, no matter who the “victim” is, whether they are a public figure or an anonymous user. I didn’t even register that the person I was “defending” was rich—I’m just aware that calls to violence are against most instances’ terms of service (due to legal threats). Genuinely sorry seahorse! I wish you just had something in your instance sidebar or even spoke to me instead of jumping to ban and “lib” insults!

Unverifiable information you will have to take my word for (per community rules)
Apologized to seahorse and got:

My own personal curiosities only adjacently relatedCorrect me if I’m wrong, isn’t this a bit of an abuse of federation? This is the same admin that pulled the move with the doxxing of Nick Fuentes. By banning users for reporting content that may violate our local instance rules, seahorse is making our local instances harder to moderate for our admins. (Honestly I respect the commitment to the running a very open and uncensored instance, but until Lemmy has the option to only report to local admins versus local & federated authorities, this may not be the best strategy?)

Anyway, this is pretty interesting. I’m honestly not too pressed about this (mostly I will miss [email protected]) and curious what yall think. :)

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Libbity lib lib

Who tf is this? Elmer Fudd?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

[email protected]

Probably worth boycotting the main onion community and using this secondary one.

the secondary one was made in the past in response to shitty moderation on midwest.social affecting their onion community, so this isn’t a one time thing, it’s a patterm.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

'Libbity lib lib'

How utterly bizarre

PTB

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

i remember when the word liberal was a tool to define policy, now it’s just a toy word to throw around when upset these days 👵

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Sure it was, grandma, let's get you back to bed

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

angry old lady grumbling noises

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

PTB

I've verified the modlog. @[email protected] actually banned someone with the rational that they were reporting calls to violence.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

An admin. How unfortunate. Looks like I'll be leaving Lordofthememes on Midwest.social

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

It really feels like the mod tools of lemmy need to be a bit more fine grained. A button to ignore all further reports from a person would have gone a long way here.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Fucking mods, there should be a way for people of that instance to vote kick shitty mods.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Vote with your presence. Leaving instances and communities managed by power tripping admins and mods is the only bargaining power members have.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Come join lemmings.world! I have pretty sane and lax rules.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Usually if numerous frivolous reports were getting on someone's nerves they would warn you first. I'm guessing there was a big backlog to clear around certain comments. Thanks for making reports, even if I wouldn't completely agree with the threshold you use, personally.

"Libbity lib lib..." is a non-reason for a community ban, the admin in question would be better off being honest and just ban you from the instance with the reason "i'm tired of getting your stupid reports", and be done with it.

It's fine for an admin to run things the way they want, but handling it in this unclear way reflects poorly on them, and the silly reason just shows how much someone can be stuck up their own ass.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

The "honest reason" is that the moderator in question disagrees with OP.

The moderator believes that the wealthy should be punished corporally for the catastrophic harm they have inflicted upon humanity for generations through their parasitism and believes that it is morally right to champion such punishment.

OP has demonstrated the position that calling for this punishment is morally wrong.

This was an impasse.

The moderator decided that opinions such as OP's are not welcome there, and therefore chose to remove OP.

We're not going to find detached impassive professionalism or even-handedness here, no matter how hard we dig for it. It's just politically motivated suppression of opposed opinions through and through.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

OP has demonstrated the position that calling for this punishment is morally wrong.

False. If you reread my post (or read it for the first time, perhaps) you will find three key statements:

  • I generally report all calls to violence, no matter who the “victim” is.
  • I didn’t even register that the person I was “defending” was rich.
  • I have no interest in protecting the rich—just keeping the instances I know and love up and running.

Depending on an instance’s local government situation, instance admins can be held liable by law for hosting certain content, and therefore many instances have rules against calls to violence. I don’t even agree it’s a morally good or optimal system, it’s just how it is.

Out of this understanding, along with reporting the much more common slurs, racism, sexism, etc. I occasionally also report calls to violence. This is not out of any political interest; I am just helping admins keep house.

Anyway, thank you for your suuuuuper good-faith reading of my post, and I trust you’ll do the same for this comment. /s

[-] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

You might want to look up the definition of corporal punishment, because you are absolutely opposing corporal punishment when you report a post that advocates violence as punishment.

Being opposed to corporal punishment by default is not a bad thing.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

goodness :( please read the post. admins. can get. in legal. trouble. for. calls. to. violence.

the report is just me giving them the heads up that the content exists, nothing more, not me trying to censor others, not some political statement, and certainly not a moral one.

admins are free to ignore my reports. in fact, i hope they do, and perhaps let me know when and where they are not necessary.

i have read your post. PLEASE read mine. 😭

[-] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

So what you're saying is you don't really care if there's call for violence and are indifferent to people being killed/attacked because of it. All you care about is protecting the instances and its admins legally?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

sure. whatever. not the most accurate description of what im saying but a lot damn closer than other people have been.

  • i don’t characterize it as “protecting” im literally just hilighting a potential issue that can be ignored or addressed.
  • i am not indifferent to any violence and my relationship to violence does not play into my decision to report content.

i don’t understand why you and others think there is such a moral mesage behind clicking the report button. it’s two clicks and a text field to say “hey, found this, wanted to bring it to your attention but it’s not up to me in the end.”

[-] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Okay, that listed reason is so five-year-old-on-a-sugar-high that I ain't even mad. Like, it goes beyond power tripping into comedy via absurdity.

However, if you're running around playing playground monitor, I can't say I blame them. Report abuse is a thing, and depending on how far you're taking it, it could well be absurdist as well

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I'll be honest 'libbity lib lib' has now made me laugh multiple times while scrolling.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Obviously I didn’t keep count but I can’t have made more than maybe 1-3 reports in the last day? Believe me I hear you though! That’s why I was so apologetic to him and reached out before posting here. I hate to he a nuisance and genuinely just try to help people out haha.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago

I still don't get your angle here...

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

yeah im slowly starting to understand how my framework of understanding differs from that of many here. here is a summary of part of it: https://lemmy.cafe/comment/8833662

if you have any specific questions feel free. i feel like i’m sort of bridging whatever conceptual disconnect is going on but doubt im all the way there yet.

[-] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago

I understand what you're saying, but violence is necessary.

Peaceful protest is all but impossible and uneffective in the current political landscape.

I don't think we can take back our world through political means anymore. The rich have been waging a culture war and winning it. And if you don't believe me, just look at the fascist tilt in recent elections.

I'd love to be proven wrong but the longer I look at the situation, the more it seems like a return to the guillotine is the way to go.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Thanks for your comment :) I also fully agree with what you are saying. Check out any number of my historical comments to see how much I fucking hate the rich. It was JFK who said “Those who make peaceful protest impossible make violent revolution inevitable.” I absolutely believe that the wealthy should face punishment for their violent crimes against the lower and middle classes for centuries.

But! You are just talking past my point here. I didn’t report out of a political motive at all, I reported because some admins might face legal trouble from their local government, the same as I report the much more common racism, sexism or harassment. See here for a longer summary: https://lemmy.cafe/comment/8831214

[-] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yeah, indifferent to your side/angle/cause, you have to play by the rules. Its not the 90s internet anymore. Either play smart by the rules or find an alternative.

Edit I do condone any form of violence or calls of action to.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Violence should only be used against billionaires. Moreover, I think any site or gathering place is in its rights to have that within its rules.

However, violence must be maintained as a clear alternative because peaceful protest and political action only when backed by that credible threat. It should also only be used when it is clear the other avenues are not sufficient.

And if we remove that from all gathering places, we have kneecapped our ability to stand against tyranny when we need it.

[-] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You’re the worst kind of person

[-] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Found seahorse's secret alt account!

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