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[email protected] mod silently bans people from their community for disagreeing, and tries to hide the comments from being seen in the modlog. (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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Hello I'm not a person who is affected by this community moderator but I'm posting on behalf of people who are, since they don't seem to know of this community yet. I attempted to reach some via DM but I'm not sure they'll respond. So I'm making this post since I feel this needs to be addressed.

Recently I was made aware of a community that appeared randomly on Lemmy.world. It seems to be a troll community given the type of content, but the reason I'm posting about it here specifically is that this mod seems to be banning anyone who points this out or goes against his narrative. Furthermore he is only using the autoremove on ban function, not removing any content the users have posted, which I believe is deliberate in attempt to prevent the content from showing up under the modlog and revealing the hypocrisy.

Some samples of comments:

Comment from: @[email protected]

Everything else you posted has been pretty cringe but what he fuck is up with this one, dude lol

comment from: @rain_[email protected]

free software is SLOWING DOWN tech advancement??????? WHAT???????

comment from: @rain_[email protected]

i genuinely do not understand your point

comment from: @the_[email protected]

First off, nice new community. I look forward to days of quality posts such as this./s

Second, how many Linux distros have this level of data collection, and what is their estimated market share?

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All of these were retrieved from the API, even though they aren't included in the modlogs, I could've included more but it's kind of a time consuming process to look for them and retrieve them. Viewing removed comments is easier on Lemmy than it is on Reddit but it still isn't easy.

What do you guys think, does this seem like power-tripping? Also does this person's content seem like blatant troll content?

CC: @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected]

People who's comments I mentioned, I CCed them so they know I did this on their behalf

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[-] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This is an example of a community I don't subscribe to, because I'm not the target demographic.

I think a Linux sucks community should exist, it can exist, and if the moderator wants to remove anything about Linux not sucking that's fine too. The way this moderator is doing it, they should just turn on mod only posting.

I looked at the community sidebar, and one of the community rules is no promoting Linux, no defending Linux, so at least it's consistent

Lemmy needs a diverse set of voices.

Counterexample: if I go into fuck cars and talk about vehicles in any positive fashion, I'm going to get dog piled and probably banned

[-] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I've had run-ins with Linuxsucks' owner and basically only poster over on linuxmemes. They're a troll, a contrarian, uninterested in any kind of honest or good-faith discussion, and an overall dickhead. The community is a one-man circlejerk.

You're right about needing counterpoints, but Linuxsucks ain't it.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I think he basically only made it because he somehow thought that if he had his own community his memes wouldn't get as heavily downvoted, as they do on [email protected] though they're pretty wrong about that. Pretty much all but one of their posts there on linuxsucks are getting downvoted heavily.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I've suggested a rule in the past, but we don't have this rule now.

Community Manipulation

Communities should not be overly moderated in order to enforce a specific narrative. Respectful disagreement should be allowed in a smaller proportion to the established narrative.

i.e. A user should be able to (respectfully, infrequently) post/comment about a study showing marijuana is a gateway drug to !marijuana without moderation tools being used to censor that content.

There are times people wouldn't like it, but it'd fully solve this !linuxsucks issue.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

I unfortunately am starting to lose faith in Lemmy's desire to reduce toxicity. They just now finally banned Linkerbaan, but it took 11 months of extreme trolling in support of Trump for it to happen. Days before the election, they finally took action. The user is probably laughing his ass off, having already reached 99.9% of the users they were hoping to.

Their cherry on top is they got away with accusing people of supporting/loving genocide hundreds of times unscathed. Most of the time where I witnessed that behavior, the person they attacked hadn't even expressed any form of support for Israel.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Unless I’m missing something this seems like a significant misrepresentation of that user’s behavior. I found them to be an annoying ideologue but having strong views and a focus on a singular topic isn’t the same as trolling.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Okay well they were banned from the instance for trolling. I think many people thought they clearly were doing so.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Certainly. But I never felt that way.

Technically, they were banned for: “constant attacks on other users, sealioning and general bad faith discussions and baseless accusations” which might be adjacent to trolling but I think is a more fair and objective description of their behavior.

The problem with trolling is that it’s usually not possible to identify with certainty because it depends on a person’s intent and state of mind. In your judgment Linkerbaan was trolling. In mine they weren’t. But who is right? There’s no way to be certain, it’s just a guess based on their behavior. That’s why I don’t think it should be used in moderation decisions. It’s just too subjective.

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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

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