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While some of those came about through socialist revolutions they were hijacked by the military who retained the socialist rhetoric. The actual state that followed the revolutions were never socialist, they were at best military dictatorships with some social policies comparable to social democracies.

The USSR is interesting as it was a planned economy. The others are just state capitalist however.

You should read about the revolutions and how they failed! It was never the socialism itself that failed, because it was never implemented in the first place! That's the difficult part.

In general the more egalitarian the system the more obstacles to implement as those who own things have less incentives to implement it (and will do whatever they can to squash it or redirect it). It's not coincidence that liberalism came about only after we got capitalists and a sizeable middle class. We ddin't get democracy because it is a good system, we got it because it was a way for capitalists and the middle class to gain political power. With socialism there is no upper class that will support the revolution, no businesses or government will be on our side because it directly threatens them.

We have a word for those who claim they are a socialist yet support the states you mentioned. We call them tankies. Socialists and anarchists despise them because they are in many ways just like fascists, yet they try to worm their way into our spaces.

Edit:

I think that utopian socialism is beautiful, but it doesn’t take into account human behaviors like greed, hate, rancor, etc

It specifically does! Also utopian socialism is not a thing these days!

Wasn't really ever worth it. There has been calculable dehumanization, exploitation, and genocides all in the name of profit and efficiency. The quality of life going up for some of us in some parts (which is largely because of unions anyways) should not excuse the harm that capitalism has done and continues to do.

As you say, the incentives in the system are not towards a prosperous and stable society, but towards maximizing how much you can squeeze out of people.

So in my opinion it was never worth it is essentially what I'm saying.

Yes.

As others have mentioned democratic socialism is a form of socialism.

Socialism is a society where people own and run things together, without capitalism or feudalism or whatever. It is the idea that everyone should own their workplace and their home, either directly or through a state/community they own with everyone else in it. The spirit of socialism is removing all exploitative systems in favor of cooperative solutions. It would mean no renting out locales or apartments, and no bosses (as in owners) etc. There is also this idea that capital and currency should not be a thing as it tends to quickly go into the hands of a few over time, and so we are therefore often in favor of other systems of distributing goods.

Social democracy is liberalism (a form of capitalism) but with social safety nets and systems to limit the harm that capitalism can do, such as strong unions and labor laws. Originally social democracy was implemented by socialists who wanted to slowly bring about socialism, but it has mellowed out a lot and now it's just what you and I describe.

Edit: I feel I should mention that social democracy is generally considered to be in decline. Union participation is down, things are being privatized, labor laws revoked. The socially democratic parties have not just mellowed out it seems, but have drifted right. They often seem more concerned with maintaining the status quo than with improving society.

"Is she... you know... into making her own clothes?"

To anyone reading this please don't do this. By cheating by memorizing you ruin everything for those of us who spent minutes writing the answers on the label of our drinking flask and making it look like the ingredients.

then why is "I" capitalized ?

checkmate commies

Locking. This meme complains about misogyny, with people immediately jumping in to imply misogyny isn't real and start complaining about irrelevant stuff to the meme in an inflammatory manner. Please behave in the future.

The last time we had a post like this it was filled with a bunch of sealioning from tankies (authoritarian socialists). Be aware that we will be banning any such behavior.

Linux can absolutely replace windows for the average user.

"Why are you trying to do [x]? Have you tried doing [y] instead?"