THE POLICE PROBLEM
The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
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I dunno. I feel like if you're asking your 11 year old kid to call the cops for you and shit gets fucked up, is it a you problem not a police problem if they're responding to a situation where they apply an appropriate level of response not knowing who is who in that hot moment.
It's horrible that the kid was in the middle of it - - but where was the parent?
This seems to me that police need better domestic dispute training, but tragic as it is ,things move so quickly in a situation like that.
Too bad the boyfriend doesn't have unlimited funds but really I don't think the police department is at fault.
If you think that's an appropriate level of response, you're delusional and way too influenced by your country. See how police operates elsewhere. Here in Spain they don't shoot people even if they're armed, unless they start shooting first basically. There are other ways to control a situation, but in your country they have gone mad with power and they are too afraid to save lives by risking their own safety.
They're not afraid to do it; they don't want to and that's officially not their job according to the supreme court.
Not to say they aren't filthy violent cowards, but it doesn't even get to the point where cowardice enters the equation.
How did the USA get itself into this kind of situation where police routine just shoot innocent people as an 'appropriate level of response' since they don't know 'who is hot'? These stories come up all the time. Police get spooked by something, and people get killed because of it. Sometimes its an acorn; sometimes it's someone walking too fast wearing a hoodie; sometimes it's someone who closed their car window 'suspiciously'; and very often, the thing that makes the cops freak out and murder someone is just the sight of the person who requested help.
"Warrior Training". John Oliver has a great piece on it here, NSFW language.
https://youtu.be/Wf4cea5oObY
It's a 30 minute watch and 100% worth it.
Also lots of them train with the Zionist shutzstaffel.
The police are absolutely at fault for, you know, shooting an 11 year old who was complying with police orders.
It doesn't matter who called the police or where the parents were or what they were doing, the police shot an 11 year old who was attempting to do what the police were telling him to do.
This stems from a lot of different things, but my expectation would be this was the #1 component:
https://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2014/03/black-boys-older
https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/03/cops-tend-to-see-black-kids-as-less-innocent-than-white-kids/383247/