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Such as…?
Hyundai seems to be the top choice right now. They have the best combination of value, features, technology and reliability.
The Ioniq 5 is, at least where I live in Canada, is on a perpetual waitlist (except for the base 2wd model nobody wants). I'm personally waiting for the Ioniq 7 to replace my rusting Outback.
What’s the cost and range for all of those options? Do they have self driving?
Does Tesla?
Mine does. It drives me to work with no interventions on most days.
For highway driving I don't think I can go back to another car with a less capable ADAS package. It's truly a game changer.
lol... do your door handles work? trunk seals?
if you don't trust them to get simple shit right, how vacuous would trusting their driving tech be?
Yes, I have actually replaced more door handles per mile on my previous cars.
Nice way to say “no”
Currently, only Mercedes Benz has a self driving system, limited to a top speed of 40mph and a few States that have certified it.
Oh nonono anti-Tesla bros… what’s our next cope?
you'd really trust your life to something 'developed' by musk?
lol you do you... strange hill to literally die on.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/dawn-project-psa-beware-tesla-171700313.html
https://electrek.co/2023/12/11/tesla-dmv-full-self-driving-lie-so-long-allowed-keep-going/
https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/23/23837598/tesla-elon-musk-self-driving-false-promises-land-of-the-giants
https://gotmusked.com/content/full-self-driving-tesla-lies/
And yet it drives better than 90% of the people on the road
well, I hope your misplaced enthusiasm for the tech doesn't get someone murdered.
please, be attentive when you 'fool self drive'.
They made full self drive free for a month. Where’s the thousands of deaths you were expecting so far?
Who said I expected thousands of deaths? Strawman argument ftw I guess.
Meanwhile in reality: Tesla Autopilot Involved in 736 Crashes since 2019
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a44185487/report-tesla-autopilot-crashes-since-2019/
So less than 150 crashes per year. Do you even realize how little that is?
Now tell me how many crashes there are without autopilot. Hint: way more.
just people's lives lol, no biggie. because musk lies.
well, since you're so invested, hopefully karma finds you.
Rofl you have no response to my statement. There are far less car crashes using autopilot than fully human-controlled cars. You can’t refute this fact. Get lost.
Rivian, Audi, BYD, Ford.. and many more. All of which I'd rather own
Given the range of vehicles here, you’re clearly just reading articles rather than looking. From the perspective of US…
For EVs available now in the US, Teslas are frequently the less expensive option with the best features and quality. However admittedly there are so few models, from any manufacturer, that it’s hard to see much direct competition
I literally currently own one of the EVs I listed (and also have driven a Model S cross-country), so I have not "just been reading articles". Tesla's quality has gone down the shitter, so if that's what you're looking for there are much better options. I'm curious as to what features (other than the "self" driving that kills people) you're missing if not in a Tesla.
Also, Rivian has a truck (how does that compete with the Model X?), and Ford has more than just the truck in the EV space. Are you sure you know what you're talking about here?
Yes