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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Police lie under oath, a lot

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Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Don't they need to breathalyse him?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

No. Pbts aren't even evidence as they're a presumptive test. They do not need to offer not do you need to submit to anyone but the intoxilyzer at the station or a blood draw from a qualified phlebotomist. Anything outside of those two things is presumptive and is not evidence only the testimony from it is supporting first party evidence and yes that including fst's like the walk and turn or hgn.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

How are those not evidence but a guy sitting next to liquor somehow is?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Its not, the officers testimony about what they saw/smelled however is. Imo officers testimony is too weighty at the moment and should count for less but it is what it is.

She also fucked up bad by saying it smelled like "alcohol" alcohol is colorless and odorless, she should get slightly more descriptive like a sweet alcohol smell which could be schnapps, brandy etc but alcohol itself cannot be discerned from legal to illegal.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It should be noted that refusal of a breathalyzer in the US has consequences that depend on the state. Refusal will get you an automatic six month license suspension and $500 fine in many.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

The breathalyzer (intoxilyzer) yes, correct. The roadside pbt (presumptive breath test) is not, only the testimony from the officer is.