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From Prof. Eliot Jacobson:

Wow! Wow! Wow!

North Atlantic sea surface temperature anomalies are going vertical again. And yes, I needed to extend the y-axis.

Yesterday's temperature of 24.49°C (76.08°F) was 4.2σ above the 1991-2020 mean. The previous high for July 17 was 23.71°C (74.68°F) in 2020.

https://twitter.com/EliotJacobson/status/1681321023306874880

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

It takes about ~30 years to see the effects of emissions on the climate. That means the climate crisis we're experiencing right now is only the emissions up to ~1993. Looking at CO~2~ emissions alone, in 1993 the global total was 22.8 billion tonnes. The latest Data available is from 2021, which shows the global CO~2~ emissions at 37.1 billion tonnes. That's in increase of 14.3 billion tonnes of annual CO~2~ emissions in the amount of time it takes us to feel the effects, that's a 61% increase in Annual emissions, Not Total emissions. If we stopped all CO~2~ emissions today, it would continue to get considerably worse for at least the next quarter-century. We are truly ~~Fucked~~ on the bleeding edge of that climate "tipping point" and major changes are about to start happening very rapidly.

source for CO~2~ emissions numbers: https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (7 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a pipe dream at the scale we need it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only in the way that can be monetized or industrialized, and only if we actually cut down on emissions (instead of just slowing the growth rate a little)

There's plastic bottles everywhere. There's people everywhere. What if every human spent an hour a day on little algae bioreactors? It's grade school level science, all you need is bottles, non-potable water, a knife, and any old cloth to strain it out.

And, of course, algae... But once you get started, that'll be easy to come by. It'll even naturally adapt to local conditions, and there's versions that can be used as food - the rest can be dried and used as fertilizer. It not only provides nutrients and increases water retention, it also helps mycillium regrow, repairing the soil. This also reduces runoff and feeds into water tables

Ever since this idea popped into my head, I've felt there's something there - I met someone working for a company that is doing this commercially, and I can't help but think if we can do it in a distributed manner it could help with a lot of issues

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No incentive, even for biochar for terra preta.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Gamify it. Everyone starts out with a basic setup. The organization coordinating the effort can add additional incentives. Add achievements, unlockables, larger setups, rare algaes and algae colors. Loot boxes with various supplies. Three factions that compete against each other. Leaderboards, both local and global.

It would be simultaneously competitive and cooperative towards a common goal.

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