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Google Pixel alternatives? (lemmy.giftedmc.com)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I'm thinking of getting a second phone to ease off iOS. It has been good for productivity stuff but the closed off nature of the device keeps disrupting my plans. Everything is either expensive or ad ridden. (Except floccus, floccus is awesome)

So far I have read about graphene OS and am quite interested. I really despise google though. Any chance to use another device and put some linux flavor on it? I was playing with the idea of a pinephone but it seems to be nowhere near daily drivable, fairphone is starting at 580 €, volla phone (german) 450 €...

Some people said xiaomi should be rootable. But the amount of different phones is huge. The price range is awesome though. I was thinking sub 300 €/$ would be awesome so tinkering doesnt hurt me financially.

Disclaimer: I dont want to go full hermit mode with no sim and a faraday bag. I respect the opinion but thats not what I'm trying to do. I want to write some small apps for my phone and use it as a computer if needed. Calling, matrix and browser should work flawlessly.

Any ideas or suggestions? :)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for elaborating! Thats very helpful.

Do you happen to know if the pixel 6 will run iut of updates with GOS like it will with android and other proprietary phones? Because I‘m searching for something I can actually own so that I can use it until it breaks without having a security nightmare in my pocket due to seized updates.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

My understanding is that GOS relies on google for security updates (and sometimes the other way around, they've made some flaws known to google). I would trust them to be solid, at least until google drops the P6 security updates, go look up how many years that is. At worst, you can then use LineageOS or something if you need security, hopefully by then you're degoogled. GOS will still work, but to my knowledge, doesn't guarantee updates after google stops updating. It's about as good as you can expect from a ROM, I'm quite happy, personally.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

this is kind of disappointing. My whole reason for switching is to keep apple from turning my device off when it becomes 5 yrs old.

Now I learn that its more or less the same with graphene since it relies on google security updates which means in two years the phone will be out of updates.

Maybe I‘m getting something wrong but my priority is not privacy^TM^ but owning my device which means as long as it turns on, I can use it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Fair enough, but P7 has 5 years of security updates, I think P8 gets 7 yrs, FWIW.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

6 has 5 yrs as well. For me its just turbo capitalism with extra steps.

What I want is the phone version of the 15+ yrs old pc I just refurbished and turned into a server.

I‘ll probably really go for something else entirely then. Probably go for my initial instinct and get a phone I can run mobile ubuntu or postmarket on. Need to research more.