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My primary argument is that they post hateful content and covid conspiracies and it is irresponsible to platform this by including it in our federation. Secondly we already got rid of lemmygrad. Thirdly, there's little to be lost in the defederation given the type of stuff being posted over there. Do as thou wilt

Aye and nays pls

Edit: putting the screencaps I posted below here for clarity

I should probably put a content warning so

CW: homophobia, transphobia, and just being a shithead.

Edit 2: let's try not to downvote people just saying nay. Unless they are making bad faith arguments we should respect their opinions even if we disagree.

Edit 3: Imma be real with y'all, this has been a real shitshow. We gotta work out some kinda single voting infrastructure because the ayes and Nays isn't efficient at all.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

By including them in our federation we are essentially acting as a platform for them to get their hateful content out and recruit people. Ie, they will have their content viewable by users on this instance. Defederating would remove their content from being visible on this instance, both preventing people from accidentally running across their shit and prevent them from interacting with this instance and vice versa. Given their admins and mods are some of the people posting bigotry, I think it unlikely that instance will ever clean up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you for clarifying what defederation does. After reading opinions more informed than mine, I'll probably abstain from voting. I'm fine with either outcome. My preferred outcome is for their posts to receive a "hate post" flair when viewable on this instance, but that would probably take too much effort/programming to be viable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's fair, I respect your civility in this matter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I regularly sort by New and I've never seen an exploding-heads post.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm just going to share that this is my anecdotal experience as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Perfect, let's keep it that way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It means your "people accidentally running across their shit" doesn't hold water.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm glad we have your word on this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

How mature of you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Counterpoint: users here aren't likely to see much of their content without subscribing to communities on their instance