1262
That'll teach ya (lemmy.world)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world
189 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] 0 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Kinda sounds like you don't have an answer.

Sure, if your bestie is having a tough time then of course you'll talk to them and do whatever it takes not to call EMS.

If it's a "casual acquaintance" as I said your options kinda diminish.

I called EMS for my neighbor once. A few days later his mother came to thank me profusely.

I'm not in the US though so things work a bit differently here.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 10 child comments
    •
  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    They are still traumatically carting people away, depriving them of liberty, and not really helping.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 9 child comments
    •
  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (8 children)

    Obviously the "not really helping" is the critical part of that statement.

    In many cases they help a great deal.

    "Depriving people of liberty" is also an appeal to emotion. While that does happen briefly in some cases, it's not really the norm. I'm sure you'll find that any one in healthcare is only going to do that if the patient is at risk of harming themselves or others. The alternative is allowing people the liberty to harm themselves or others.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 8 child comments
    •
  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    And I take the stance that people have a right to self harm or self end.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 7 child comments
    •
  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Sure ok. That's a cool edgy take, but you have to acknowledge that view will never be widely held.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 6 child comments
    •
  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    There’s nothing edgy. If someone is suffering enough to want to leave then it’s cruel to force them to stay.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 5 child comments
    •
  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Only if that suffering is untreatable.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
    •
  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    I get your point but let's not pretend that the world is in a good state and that healthcare can fix all mental or physical issues. Often if you have gotten to the point of suicide it's because you're not treatable or because of external factors like extreme poverty.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (2 children)

    I'm sorry, but this seems divorced from reality and resonates in precisely the same way that "pro lifers" resonate when they make a claim that adoption is the answer to abortion. Well, ok, show me where there are lines of people waiting to adopt. Likewise, show me where the infrastructure is to heal all these people.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •